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Re: Return YouTube dislike count

#51

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The public dislike count will be removed from the API next month unless the api call is authed with an account associated with the channel.

God. Even if you buy the "social experience" argument (which I don't really), removing it from the API for non-owners is just malicious.

Why?

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

#52
Can someone explain why this matters so much to so many people? I'm genuinely perplexed. I'm not a regular YT user, let alone content creator, and basically treat YT like any other video hosting service. So I definitely leave open the possibility that I might be be missing something. But the extreme responses in some of these comment threads give me the distinct impression that there must be money on the line or something.

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

#54
All kinds of ratings systems should just be removed.

I have had app at Play Store for a long time. It receives only low ratings, because there is one feature missing. App itself if free and has a lot of features. How does this encourage having app at Play Store at all?

It is similar at all other platforms. We need encouragement for all developers. Not dislikes.

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This is a weirdly polarizing topic. I don't think I've ever clicked on the dislike button, personally (but I do click on the like button, occasionally). It would seem like people use the dislike button to signal that "I don't agree with the premise of the video" as much as it's to signal that "this video is actually crap". Same as with Reddit downvotes - it shouldn't be used for downvoting legit content that you don'…

> IMO the dislike count is useless for filtering out "bad" content I don't know what kind of content you consume on youtube, but this does not reflect my experience at all. I'm regularly researching repair/modding manuals or enthusiast videos and the dislike count is a very, very good way of telling how good a video will be. Sometimes things are done in a really bad or even dangerous way, or the whole video is just s…

I do agree with you! Repair guides (and similar how-to's) are one of the genres where the dislikes are actually an indication of the quality of the content.

I'm just making an assumption that most of Youtube content that's consumed, is in genres where the dislikes are more a signal of "I don't agree with you/your political view/taste of music/etc". I hope I'm wrong.

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#56
Seems to me like the core of the problem is that, despite its flaws, this is one more step away from any semblance of community "moderation" at a time when trust in platforms is low. It doesn't surprise me that the issue is polarizing. At its core, the world seems split on whether platforms should take a more active role in controlling content vs allowing the market to decide.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's visible to the uploader only, so yes it's still there.

yes, they removed the dislike count to shield creators from "attacks" to improve their mental health, so the only one you can see it now is the creator. YT is either very stupid or their lying about their motive. I wonder which one is it.

Or commenters aren't bothering to do basic research before mouthing off on ycombinator? To quote from https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/134791097/update-t...

"Developers: If you’re using the YouTube API for dislikes, you will no longer have access to public dislike data beginning on December 13th. Your end users will still be able to view dislike data related to their own content on authenticated API requests. You can apply for an exemption (to have dislike data on non-authenticated calls) as long as you don’t display or share dislike data with your end users."

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

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Hopefully the community will come together and figure out a good solution for the mess that YT is creating.

> Hopefully the community will come together and figure out a good solution for the mess that YT is creating.

If youtube won't host the information, it becomes a search problem: who has voted on this link? How have they voted?

Certainly the easiest path would be to create a new centralized site that hosts all these votes. Then create an extension to add these downvotes back in.

Ideally you'd probably want to also have folks be willing to track views too, since downvotes is pretty much a consideration of ratios; 22 downvotes doesn't sound like a lot if there's a million views but it's a lot if there's 100 views.

So now we have an extension that tracks every youtube video you view and submits it to some centralized site, along with upvote/downvotes.

It'd be excellent to try to evolve a more distributed p2p architecture for doing this, but short of recording it on a blockchain- and a roll-up side-chain probably won't help- there's not a lot of good ways to do this. An intermediary step would be to have folks create micro-pages that record their votes. Then we can search "link:https://youtube.com/1a2s3d4f" to use google to go find all the votes people have created.

It's sad & bitter Youtube is de-democratizing this way, is serving their customers & not the audience, but it does interestingly highlight what a hard problem it is to create real demoncratic systems online.

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

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Hopefully the community will come together and figure out a good solution for the mess that YT is creating.

I think it's as simple as commenting "dislike" on the video instead. It will fill the comments with negative responses that are easily recognized, and while you don't get counts it won't be hard to tell if a video has a lot of dislikes.

It would be better to get a count and ratio of like to dislikes but Google doesn't want that so comments it is.

The other option is an off-site like/dislike page that is hosted off of Google's servers and not subject to their tos. Maybe accessible through an extension. Abandon YouTube like/comments since they clearly can't handle the engagement and host the discussion on a third party page - one page with a like/dislike count for each YouTube video and with better forum type tools than YouTube comments offer. A good opportunity for a third party to build a tool that solves the problem outside of YouTube.

Re: Return YouTube dislike count

#60

I cancelled my youtube music subscription and had that as the main reason for cancelling. You gotta vote with the wallet. But I don't honestly think google cares about what their users cares about. At least it doesn't feel that way.

I really am surprised that it matters to you that much.
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