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Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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I hate tech like this. It ostensibly offers some minor convenience for the end-user, but it's really just a big data grab for whatever company implemented it. A few years ago, I went to a local Shake Shack and found they replaced their cashiers with kiosks. But placing an order requires me to give them my phone number, supposedly so they can text me when my order was ready. This should have been a very simple transac…

“Do you need my phone number to checkout” or “I forgot my phone” always works tbh. Just have to be a little disagreeable.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#54

I hate tech like this. It ostensibly offers some minor convenience for the end-user, but it's really just a big data grab for whatever company implemented it. A few years ago, I went to a local Shake Shack and found they replaced their cashiers with kiosks. But placing an order requires me to give them my phone number, supposedly so they can text me when my order was ready. This should have been a very simple transac…

I always put a fake number into the Shake Shack kiosk. It hasn't been a problem, since the people sacking the burgers shout out my equally fake name to pick up my order. If Shake Shack is really texting me that my order us ready, it's going to a prison pay phone a dozen states away.

I have yet to encounter a loyalty card program where local area code + Jenny's number (867-5309) wasn't registered.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#55
post #7

Just say you don't have a smartphone. I got rid of mine and was worried I will have issues at places that do this sort of stuff. Turns out usually things suddenly become possible.

The HN crowd knows this, but 97% of users don't, and just follow the "rules". They lack the tech-paranoia that us tech workers have, as we happily/fearfully build these systems to maximize monetization.

As always many people love convenience over privacy and this is why major wolves are able to prey them for data. The way to solve is through proper rules and regulations but ....

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#56

I hate tech like this. It ostensibly offers some minor convenience for the end-user, but it's really just a big data grab for whatever company implemented it. A few years ago, I went to a local Shake Shack and found they replaced their cashiers with kiosks. But placing an order requires me to give them my phone number, supposedly so they can text me when my order was ready. This should have been a very simple transac…

experienced this too recently. i asked to order with a cashier and they gladly obliged.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#57
> “This isn’t a TJ’s thing,” said Tara Miller, a Trader Joe’s spokesperson. “It’s being implemented by the landlord. We are a tenant in the building and are bound by the same parking validation system as other tenants.”

So why does the headline imply the exact opposite? Because it gets clicks of course, but this is why people hate and distrust the media any more. Stop lying.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

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post #3

> The parking-lot attendant, he said, “let me off with a warning that I wouldn’t be so lucky next time.” So... for some old timer who pulls up without a smartphone they'll turn them away? Sounds like an empty threat to me. Edit: Should have read more before commenting, later in the article: > customers “also have the option of entering their license plate number into one of four kiosks as a means of validating their…

>So... for some old timer who pulls up without a smartphone they'll turn them away? yeah? AFAIK if you want to shop at an amazon go store, you need mobile app and a registered amazon account. We're also getting there at other places because some establishments/jurisdictions are requiring proof of vaccination (ie. signed QR code).

Amazon Go allows you to insert a debit/credit card linked with amazon account to enter as well.

Re: There may be a steep privacy cost if you park here

#60

I hate tech like this. It ostensibly offers some minor convenience for the end-user, but it's really just a big data grab for whatever company implemented it. A few years ago, I went to a local Shake Shack and found they replaced their cashiers with kiosks. But placing an order requires me to give them my phone number, supposedly so they can text me when my order was ready. This should have been a very simple transac…

“Do you need my phone number to checkout” or “I forgot my phone” always works tbh. Just have to be a little disagreeable.

What about a simple "I don't have a mobile?" A lot of folks forget there are still people who don't have one - and many who don't want one. If the store won't transact with someone simply because they don't feel like handing out that bit of information (or simply because they don't have the information to provide), they're not really a store worth transacting with.
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