I am sure many of these people are actually anti-vaxxers that don't take precautions and mingle in like minded large circles.
Covid-19 Cases and Deaths by Vaccination Status
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Re: Covid-19 Cases and Deaths by Vaccination Status
#52It's not much use if the data isn't broken down by age, as that is an enormous risk factor with Covid. Here's some better data, from the UK: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... The relevant data is on Table 4, page 15. Eg: For the 30-39 age group, Covid death rate amongst the unvaccinated was 0.7 per 100,000, and it was 0.1 per 100,000 for the double vaccinated. For the over 80 age group,…
The site links to the full PDF report, which has the data by age groups: * https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/Cases-and-D...
Interesting. Apparently Texas has some incredibly unhealthy people, as the unvaccinated death rate there is significantly higher than the unvaccinated death rate in the UK.
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#53tl;dr: Vaccination status correlates with a 13x reduction of infection risk and a 20x reduction of death risk. Now, to be clear that's a confounded number. The vaccinated are also likely to be taking other mitigation strategies seriously. So the vaccine itself will be somewhat less effective than this. Nonetheless, this is pretty damning for the horse paste set. In decades to come we'll wonder and think and study how…
> In decades to come we'll wonder and think and study how this all went so horrifically wrong. lol, it might take decades to massage public consciousness for a desired outcome in the state's interest, but it certainly doesn't take that long to get a handle on the actual issues: institutions used up all their credibility on transparently obvious misinformation. It started with the WHO, an organization already hurting…
You call out a lot of unfortunate communication missteps. What are you referring to though with redefining the word vaccine?
Re: Covid-19 Cases and Deaths by Vaccination Status
#54tl;dr: Vaccination status correlates with a 13x reduction of infection risk and a 20x reduction of death risk. Now, to be clear that's a confounded number. The vaccinated are also likely to be taking other mitigation strategies seriously. So the vaccine itself will be somewhat less effective than this. Nonetheless, this is pretty damning for the horse paste set. In decades to come we'll wonder and think and study how…
CNN/MSNBC have misinformed you about Ivermectin. Do you think the inventors would get a Nobel Prize if it was just for horses? Advil is also used for horses but we don't misinform people and call it pain killer for horses.
The new Pfizer drug, with 89% efficacy, is a protease inhibitor targeting 3CLPro. Ivermectin seems to also work as a protease inhibitor targeting 3CLPro. Repurposing a drug that we know is safe means it came be deployed very rapidly. New and unknown drugs can take years before all side effects are known.
If anyone is interested in hearing an informed opinion on Ivermectin check out Dr. John Campbell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2AweXRkc
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In decades to come we'll wonder and think and study how this all went so horrifically wrong. lol, it might take decades to massage public consciousness for a desired outcome in the state's interest, but it certainly doesn't take that long to get a handle on the actual issues: institutions used up all their credibility on transparently obvious misinformation. It started with the WHO, an organization already hurting…
You call out a lot of unfortunate communication missteps. What are you referring to though with redefining the word vaccine?
Both: "Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected."
Before: "Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose."
After: "Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose."
http://web.archive.org/web/20210826113846/https://www.cdc.go...
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=221... According to VAERS, alien abduction may occur with certain type of vaccines.
Yes, it's very convenient for those who wish to criticize VAERS that random people can enter random garbage. But even a few minutes spent scrolling through VAERS will show a large number of credible entries. At any rate, everyone agrees that VAERS can provide a necessary-but-not-sufficient signal, which is why the CDC VSD exists (large database of adverse events from HMOs and other sources). Hence, any trend (good or…
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In decades to come we'll wonder and think and study how this all went so horrifically wrong. lol, it might take decades to massage public consciousness for a desired outcome in the state's interest, but it certainly doesn't take that long to get a handle on the actual issues: institutions used up all their credibility on transparently obvious misinformation. It started with the WHO, an organization already hurting…
You call out a lot of unfortunate communication missteps. What are you referring to though with redefining the word vaccine?
A FOIA request turned up the email exchange that motivated the redefinition. Clearly motivated by a desire to control outcome, which is odd - given the constant demand for deference over critical thought:
https://www.scribd.com/document/536749738/CDC-Emails
> ...unfortunate communication missteps.
That is one hell of a euphemism for being caught out in a lie. Fauci admitted to Congress that he intentionally lied to the public about the effectiveness of masks in order to manage people's behavior. Of course he tried to make his admission as confusing and unquotable as possible, which might be why you aren't aware of it: "...there was a paucity of equipment..."
I get the whole excuse about employing deceit in the furtherance of some greater good... but the problem with that kind of policy is that it can only possibly be used once - and after that you are left no other tools, because you can't be trusted. Do I think that was the motivation for most of this? Sure, why not... but I also know that it is a very convenient way to dodge responsibility for expanding federal power beyond what many imagined even possible while also funneling a huge amount of money. There is a reason why the mega-wealthy are coming out of this economic catastrophe with so much more than they had going in.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In decades to come we'll wonder and think and study how this all went so horrifically wrong. Hopefully we will investigate why almost all (rare) deaths after vaccination can be attributed to only 5% of lot numbers, a statistical anomaly with no easy explanation since this power-law curve appears in the data for both mRNA (Pfizer, Moderna) and non-mRNA (J&J) shots. Could the reason be variance in manufacturing or di…
I don't understand. If there are very few cases of deaths, say 50, then they'll affect at most 50 lot numbers, so a small percentage of them, presumably. What is the anomaly? (And btw the birthday paradox shows that the probability that one of the lots has more than one death is not negligible either.) So, a careful analysis is needed. Note also that people that input spurious VAERS entries might invent most of the e…
U.S. deaths reported in VAERS are about 8,000 as of Nov 5th dataset.
Given the importance of this topic, 8,000 isn't a large number for a "manual recount" audit that would cross-reference with hospital and death records, to eliminate any fake data which may be present. We can then add the records from CDC Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD), which is a separate, non-public database entered by medical professionals only.
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#59From the CDC website, https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vac... > people are considered fully vaccinated: 2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or 2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen vaccine Until 14 days after the final dose, in addition to the risk of Covid infection or injury, there is risk of non-Covid…
Can you clarify why people should avoid physical exertion in the 14 day window? Also, is there currently any evidence that your immune system is generally less effective during that time?
> Can you clarify why people should avoid physical exertion in the 14 day window?
Some countries issued a warning about myocarditis. This was later narrowed to young people. Some countries later banned Moderna entirely for young people. There was also a concern about transient blood clots or micro-clots (also possible with Covid itself), which can impact blood circulation.
> is there currently any evidence that your immune system is generally less effective during that time?
In addition to anecdotal reports from doctors, here are 2 short papers.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8379763/pdf/mai...
> Our case report describes two adults developing herpes zoster after vaccination with tozinameran (the Pfizer- BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA vaccine). A possible cause for this reaction is a transient lymphocytopenia that occurs after the vaccination — similar to that in COVID-19 disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8546144/pd...
> we report, besides generation of neutralizing antibodies, consistent alterations in hemoglobin A1c, serum sodium and potassium levels, coagulation profiles, and renal functions in healthy volunteers after vaccination with an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. Similar changes had also been reported in COVID-19 patients, suggesting that vaccination mimicked an infection
As with all adverse events which may or may not be related to vaccines, we need more funding to investigate reports, identify common factors in those who were affected, then construct studies, testing and surveillance to differentiate cause from coincidence.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The vaccinated are also likely to be taking other mitigation strategies seriously. It could also be true that vaccinated people are willing to take greater risks now that they knowingly have a level of protection.
Anecdote: I personally feel more comfortable eating at restaurants after being vaccinated. A little, but more.
Someone who is unvaccinated most likely never felt uncomfortable eating at a restaurant.