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Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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Not bad, Twitter product design team. They managed to take essential UX improvements and stick it behind a paid subscription.

I first learned this technique from product managers in F2P games. If players are asking for a QoL improvement, make it a consumable item and sell it.

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

#52
post #13

As someone who was an initial skeptic when this was first announced, I really appreciate what twitter is trying to do with Blue, especially around direct payments to publishers. Any step to get the internet off of the ad-based data-harvesting revenue model is ultimately better for almost all parties.

As someone who used and appreciated Scroll (now Twitter Blue) for the same reasons, I'm pissed that they shut down the standalone service and locked it behind Twitter accounts. Canceled my subscription after that email went out. It's a shame. Kinda wish Mozilla had acquired it instead, although they don't have the leverage to promote it like Twitter does.

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Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who said the data-harvesting would stop?

You're right, it probably won't, at least not while it's still printing money for all the corporate entities involved. But it's my understanding that most of the data-harvesting tools in use today were originally created to enhance ad-targeting and drive up CPM. At the very least we can hope products like Blue might put a dent in this incentive structure.

Facebook makes maybe about 30USD a year from any given profile:

> https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a212721...

Being relatively optimistic about Twitter's size, and assuming they're just fantastic at it, Twitter might make what, half of that? So for 3$ a month you need about half of the userbase to be on board for data munging to no longer make sense as a business model.

I do wonder how high that mark is though, every SAAS I've worked with has been pay-to-use from the start, so this is not a metric I'm familiar with.

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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post #49

This idea would probably be a headache to implement, but has any service tried something like charging $1/$x for specific features? Feels like Twitter would be the prime candidate. Ad-free article access could be $1. """Editing""" tweets could be $1. Ad-free Twitter could be $4-5 (as that's what Twitter makes per US user per month via ads). Etc. IMO Patreon has already broken through the mental mode of "sign up for m…

strava (exercise tracking app) was doing it for a while, they had safety/training/metrics premium bundles each centered around a single standout feature at somewhere between $1 and $2 each, but have since gone back to a single premium tier.

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

#57
I just signed up not because I'm particularly interested in the Twitter Blue features, but because I believe in paying for things I use. I also want Twitter (and other companies) to start reducing their dependency on advertising dollars, which come with a lot of perverse incentives.

If people are looking for in on the web client, it's in the left menu under "More".l

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

#58
I pay for YouTube Premium and spend a lot more time on Twitter. I’d pay the same for ad free Twitter.

As soon as Twitter Blue comes to the UK I’d pay for it even without it being totally ad free (while complaining about that). Between Tweetbot and comprehensive ad blocking I never see ads anyway and I’m happy to pay for something I get that much value from.

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Publishers angling for retweets to get nickels from twitter's algorithm is anathema to professional journalism. Isn't that what they're already doing? Except the payer is the advertiser instead of the platform itself via the subscriber.

Professional journalism has always had this problem to a degree; there's always been an advertiser or other funding source you don't want to piss off. Twitter just exacerbates this by rewarding the most sensational, attention-grabbing posts.

Editors writing clickbait headlines have been guilty of this for so, SO long. And it has gotten worse over time, even as the actual articles are increasingly behind paywalls. Complain about headlines which have almost no bearing on anything that could be called truth, and you’ll be accused of not reading the article… as if that’d get the headline-writers off the hook.
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