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High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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"For CD [control diet], the source of carbohydrate included corn starch, sucrose and maltodextrin. In contrast, the HFCS-MFD contained HFCS as the primary source of carbohydrate at a level of 26% of the diet by weight. The HFCS-MFD also was comprised of 38.6% kcal from fat while the CD sourced 10.3% kcal from fat. The sole source of fat in the CD was soybean oil while the HFCS-MFD contained multiple sources of fat including palm oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, lard, beef tallow, and anhydrous milk fat in addition to soybean oil. Moreover, HFCS-MFD contained reduced levels of fiber and increased levels of sodium and cholesterol."

This is not a study about (only) the effects of HFCS. Everything observed could equally be blamed palm oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, lard, beef tallow, milk fat, fat in general, sodium, cholesterol, or lack of fiber. The only thing nothing can be blamed on is carbohydrates, including sucrose, because the control group received more of them. Oh, all all that in mice.

Frankly, I don't think anything can be learned from a study that varies so many variables at once.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

#53
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good 0 cal drinks to try are: water, coffee, and tea.

If we go to the extreme, coffee is potentially carcinogenic (charred beans -> acrylamide, but research is inconclusive), and tea contains mercury, fluoride, and arsenic. It's hard to say whether aspartame is worse or better than tea and coffee.

People have been drinking coffee and tea for over one thousand years, my friend.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

#54
John Yudkin [0] makes it very clear dietary sugar is conpletely unnecessary for human nutrition. Talking about sucralose, lactose, dextrose, and especially fructose. Potatoes and pasta raise your blood sugar aplenty, and resistant starches feed your gut bacteria for free.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/Pure-White-Deadly-Sugar-Killing/dp/01...

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

#55
post #47
post #4

Anecdotal, but I recently started a no-sugar diet just to see what would happen, and I saw an immediate improvement in my mood. I wake up feeling excited about my day instead of groggy. I also get less tired in the evenings after work. It's not perfect, but there's a clear difference. I'm not going back. Also, it made me realize how much sugar/HFCS/etc. is in everything. I have a feeling the next few decades of resea…

Also anecdotal but seen this confirmed by others: Cutting out seed oils and eating more saturated fat (butter) lessens sugar/carb cravings by a lot and makes cutting out both of those toxins easier. https://www.reddit.com/r/StopEatingSeedOils/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SaturatedFat/

The process of making those seed oils is disgustingly industrial. Repeated high temperature exposure. And a lot of bottles sit in warm places, plant oils are easy to go rancid.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

#56

Is it possible we are seeing it the wrong way, does anxio-depressive mood trigger you to go on sugar binge?

It’s important to point out that anxiety and depression aren’t one condition with one cause, they’re easy to diagnose symptom clusters. What helps some people with them likely won’t help everyone as there are many different underlying causes. One cause has been suggested and researched that certain gut flora can manipulate your mood to cause you to feed them what they want. I.e. diet and mood can be codependent where…

Interesting, but even in the case of your example, one can interpret that lack of sugars can cause mood change, but not consumption of it as is claimed in the post.

To put it differently, causation is tricky to prove, presence of something causing an effect is quite different than absence of something causing it.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

#57
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we go to the extreme, coffee is potentially carcinogenic (charred beans -> acrylamide, but research is inconclusive), and tea contains mercury, fluoride, and arsenic. It's hard to say whether aspartame is worse or better than tea and coffee.

People have been drinking coffee and tea for over one thousand years, my friend.

People have been smoking for over seven thousand years and consuming alcohol for over nine thousand years. What is your point?

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

#58

Sugar and HFCS = bad. What about carbs? It seems that we are throwing out the baby with the bath water. Does anyone have any good studies about carb consumption not focused on sugar? Something like Keto diet (no carbs or sugar) vs Plant Based (lots of carbs, no refined sugar)

When you eat carbs, your body turns it into glucose, a sugar.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have been drinking coffee and tea for over one thousand years, my friend.

People have been smoking for over seven thousand years and consuming alcohol for over nine thousand years. What is your point?

Probably that if there were bad side effects from coffee or tea, we’d know about it. Like we know about alcohol’s.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

#60
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have been smoking for over seven thousand years and consuming alcohol for over nine thousand years. What is your point?

Probably that if there were bad side effects from coffee or tea, we’d know about it. Like we know about alcohol’s.

Precisely. And we knew about smoking's, centuries before scientific studies conclusively proved the harm.
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