Live data from Hacker News

Timeline of the Human Condition

southampton.ac.uk

51–60 of 121 posts

Re: Timeline of the Human Condition

#51
post #45

What do people think the last thing on this would be (for human condition, but not for Earth)?

Replacement by AI or aliens

Aliens wouldn't be interested in an already populated, resource depleted, polluted planet. Better choices available for those who can traverse space.

Re: Timeline of the Human Condition

#53
In an earlier discussion around early human technology and how we dismiss early human achievements, I pointed out that Australian Aborigines had advanced boats that enabled them to get to Australia 50,000 years ago. Yet, still, we see no mention of that here, and the technology achievements listed here for that period are needles and "advanced fire-making materials" (flints and special rocks). I'm not saying this timeline is wrong, but it does seem to adhere to a western-oriented view where there is a steady progression from primitive to modern, ignoring the many other societies who advanced in different ways.

Re: Timeline of the Human Condition

#54
post #51
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replacement by AI or aliens

Aliens wouldn't be interested in an already populated, resource depleted, polluted planet. Better choices available for those who can traverse space.

It is silly to have any degree of confidence in what advanced aliens would want.

Re: Timeline of the Human Condition

#55

Well done, but politically charged. For example, why don't we see an item like "Human activity causes general climate warming trend but all-cause climate-related deaths (flood, drought, extreme temperatures) continue massive trend downward"? https://ourworldindata.org/ofdacred-international-disaster-d... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150520193831.h... https://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/07/climate_cha…

Not just politically charged, ideologically charged.

Reference to US declaration of independence leading to US superstate, but no mention of it's role in spreading the concept of individual rights worldwide. Reference to "the Wealth of Nations" in negative context, whereas Emmanuel Kant in positive context and in particular, Malthus with his since-demonstrated-to-be-glaring-absurdity in a positive light, complete with an excuse as to why it is still not invalid.

It's an interesting thing, but it would be better if that sort of personal bias were left out of something attempting to be a canonical summary of the history of humankind.

Re: Timeline of the Human Condition

#57

Recently I researched a dozen or two of the events on the table, and there is a lot of uncertainty of fact, issues of definition, and interpretation involved. That doesn't mean the author is wrong, but take each date as one interpretation of many. For example, Ancient Greek, developed in ~8th or 10th century BCE (facts aren't 100% clear), is typically credited as the first phonetic alphabet, where characters represen…

> as the first phonetic alphabet

I thought the Phoenician are credited for the alphabet. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_language

> The Phoenician alphabet was spread to Greece during this period, where it became the source of all modern European scripts.

Re: Timeline of the Human Condition

#58

Well done, but politically charged. For example, why don't we see an item like "Human activity causes general climate warming trend but all-cause climate-related deaths (flood, drought, extreme temperatures) continue massive trend downward"? https://ourworldindata.org/ofdacred-international-disaster-d... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150520193831.h... https://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/07/climate_cha…

Potentially causing massive new crises is different to technologically progressing beyond existing ones is apples to oranges imo

Re: Timeline of the Human Condition

#59
Atmospheric CO2 has increased by almost a third since I was born. I can't imagine what my children and grandchildren will experience at this rate of destruction.

"Agent Smith: Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. Instead you multiply, and multiply, until every resource is consumed. The only way for you to survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern... a virus."

Post reply on HN