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Re: Neal Stephenson reacts to Facebook name change

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Nobody's really like Stephenson, but to the extent that he is something of a cyberpunk author, I'd say you might like some of these folks if you're not familiar with them yet: 1. William Gibson - Neuromancer , 'nuff said. The rest of the Sprawl Trilogy is great as well. 2. Rudy Rucker - I haven't read any of his stuff yet, but he is on my short-list of authors to start reading. Gets recommended a lot in these circles…

Stross's Accelerando might be particularly apt

yes!

Re: Neal Stephenson reacts to Facebook name change

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Can anybody recommend authors like Stephenson? He is my favourite author by far and it's going to be a sad day when I exhaust his works.

Iain Banks. His "Culture" novels are maybe the smartest space opera ever written. start with Player of Games . The various books have no common plot thread, can be read completely out of order; Player is by far the most accessible.

I second this, and raise one Peter F Hamilton.

Re: Neal Stephenson reacts to Facebook name change

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Snow crash and Neuromancer are two well known must reads. I remember once hearing someone compare the 2 authors styles in that Neal Stephenson sounds like a hacker trying to be a great writer, and William Gibson sounds like a great writer trying to write like a hacker.

Attempted to get through Neuromancer, but (minor spoiler) when they started to switch persons around it got too confusing and I realized that it might have worked for a movie, but not a book. I also realized that I was only reading it because it was such a famous book, not because I was getting anything out of it, so I stopped.

Just putting this out in case anybody else feels the same pressure.

Re: Neal Stephenson reacts to Facebook name change

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Snowcrash was forgettable. Vernor Vinges Rainbows End and stutf in Orson Scott Cards books left a much bigger mark. Esp the way the chimp troupe gets manipulated by the network. We see Vinges "belief circles" all around us.

You know, you can express enthusiasm without tearing something else down. There was no need for your first sentence. Personally, I loved Vinge’s “True Names” short story, which I believe may be the first “virtual reality” story. I also loved Snow Crash for its in-your-face gonzo attitude.

When the talk is about Snow Crash, it is reasonable to say it is poor, if you believe that to be the case.

Re: Neal Stephenson reacts to Facebook name change

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In snowcrash, p2p network IO is cheap, compute is expensive. This sets up a metaverse where users render themselves and their content for others. The renders are streamed. No one controls the metaverse itself as it's more of a self hosted, federated affair. I think there is some sort of main street with some reserved space but it's akin to a url.

There's a "real estate" model, similar to "ownership" of domain names and address space. Developing on the "Street" is licensed by the ACM, and the compute to run it comes from income from a trust fund. There's also an IP licensing model going on too-- selling avatars, video games, amusement parks.

When I first read Snow Crash, I thought (perhaps wrongly) that there was also an advertising model to supplement the real estate business - and one that went hand-in-hand with it.

I love the passage that introduces "the Street", and it's the last sentence of it that gave me the impression of an advertising business model.

In the real world - planet Earth, Reality - there are somewhere between six and ten billion people. At any given time, most of them are making mud bricks or field-stripping their AK-47s. Perhaps a billion of them have enough money to own a computer; these people have more money than all the others put together. Of these billion potential computer owners, maybe a quarter of them actually bother to own computers, and a quarter of these have machines that are powerful enough to handle the Street protocol. That makes for about sixty million people who can be on the Street at any given time. Add in another sixty million or so who can't really afford it but go there anyway, by using public machines, or machines owned by their school or their employer, and at any given time the Street is occupied by twice the population of New York City.

That's why the damn place is so overdeveloped. Put in a sign or a building on the Street and the hundred million richest, hippest, best-connected people on earth will see it every day of their lives.

Re: Neal Stephenson reacts to Facebook name change

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody's really like Stephenson, but to the extent that he is something of a cyberpunk author, I'd say you might like some of these folks if you're not familiar with them yet: 1. William Gibson - Neuromancer , 'nuff said. The rest of the Sprawl Trilogy is great as well. 2. Rudy Rucker - I haven't read any of his stuff yet, but he is on my short-list of authors to start reading. Gets recommended a lot in these circles…

Stross's Accelerando might be particularly apt

I've heard good things about it, but it's one of a few Stross works I haven't gotten to yet, along with Singularity Sky. Both are on "the list" though.

Re: Neal Stephenson reacts to Facebook name change

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What an odd interview. I got the sense that the interviewer was really looking for Stephenson to lash out with some juicy rant about how awful Facebook is, but he is so mild about the whole thing.

I think if you saw my full questions (had to edit for brevity) you would have gotten a different sense. I really was curious to know what he thought, given no one else had talked to him, which I found strange, but glad I did!

Re: Neal Stephenson reacts to Facebook name change

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post #59

What an odd interview. I got the sense that the interviewer was really looking for Stephenson to lash out with some juicy rant about how awful Facebook is, but he is so mild about the whole thing.

I think if you saw my full questions (had to edit for brevity) you would have gotten a different sense. I really was curious to know what he thought, given no one else had talked to him, which I found strange, but glad I did!

Why did you need to edit an amazing writer for brevity? Can you make the original interview available somewhere? It would be interesting
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