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Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#51

Yay, another thing i won't be able to find anywhere for a year, then find it for $25 with "only one per customer"and $15 shipping. I understand it's a global chip shortage, but when zero W came out, there wasn't one.

Good news: in stock including US shipping at https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w for less than $25. Probably cheaper from US resellers but I'll leave that to you. Yes, one per customer, which is a reasonable policy right now.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#52
Random thought upon reading the linked announcement:

If you stacked multiple Pi boards on top of each other, connected through the GPIO HAT connector, could you network them?

Apologies, just woke up and coffee not kicked in. This is probably silly :)

EDIT: yes, I should search for this sort of thing before posting: https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=127660

tl;dr "serial port, RS485 + SLIP of some sort, probably would max out at around 1Mbps, 4Mbps theoretically possible with small MTU's" and "There is no hardware reason why an RS485 network could not be used as the physical layer for at least 32 nodes, and with some of the RS485 driver chips, 127 nodes (they have stronger drivers)"

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#53

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Yes; check my blog post [1] or latest YouTube video [2] for details, but the tldr is 0.4W (80 mA) idle minimum for Zero W, 0.6W (100 mA) idle minimum for Zero W 2. Zero W goes up to 160 mA at load, while Zero W 2 gets up to 400-500 mA due to the three extra CPU cores. [1] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/look-inside-raspberry... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKS2ElWQizA

That's a big jump. Is there a way of getting Linux to disable a couple of cores?

`echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu[0-n]/online` should do what you want.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#55

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Used to be kb. How times have changed.

Shoving 128kb into my 6502 build right now like "that oughta do it"

There isn’t much 6502 software that can use more than that.

My //e had (technically still has) 320K. Most of the time, it was a ramdisk.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#57

I've been testing one for a couple weeks, and a quick rundown on it: it has a quad-core A53, same CPU/SoC core as the Pi 3, with 512 MB of RAM. This means it can run 64-bit Pi OS, but it is memory-limited and even some of the benchmarks I ran needed extra swap space to complete. But for anything that does run in the 512 MB of LPDDR2 RAM, it is at least twice as fast as the Zero/Zero W, and sometimes 3-8x faster, depe…

Does it overclock/throttle automatically like Intel? E.g. if I put some good cooling, will it run on faster frequencies?

have you tested lz4? it's probably a little worse ratio, but it is ridiculously fast to decompress.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#58

Random thought upon reading the linked announcement: If you stacked multiple Pi boards on top of each other, connected through the GPIO HAT connector, could you network them? Apologies, just woke up and coffee not kicked in. This is probably silly :) EDIT: yes, I should search for this sort of thing before posting: https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=127660 tl;dr "serial port, RS485 + SLIP of some sort, pr…

RS485 is just an electrical standard for serial transmission that includes multiple devices on the same bus. It is not a network or transport protocol. I doubt SLIP would function on an RS485 connection as 485 is typically used in master-slave configurations where only one master unit sends messages and listening "slave" devices only respond if addressed. You'd have to write a protocol layer to handle the transport of packets over 485, even in four wire full duplex setups.

The issue with "stacking" is the pins on each board are not part of a bus but individual programmable io pins. Any stacking would require an intermediary board to isolate all these pins safely while adding the necessary TTL serial to 485 interface chips (e.g. Maxim max485).

CAN is similar to 485 where it's a 2 wire bus though it has smarter hardware which enables full duplex communication and any device can listen or transmit. Unfortunately it is pretty slow compared to Ethernet but plenty fast for its intended use.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#59
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As for the RAM limitation, zswap is a great way to get some more RAM at cost of some CPU cycles which on the new Pi won't be an issue.

zram* zram is the compress-in-memory like you have in Windows and ChromeOS and zswap is the compress-on-disk in case you want to replace SD cards.

zswap does not compress-on-disk either (I wish it did). The difference is just an implementation detail into how both plug into the kernel but the goal is the same on both.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#60

Yay, another thing i won't be able to find anywhere for a year, then find it for $25 with "only one per customer"and $15 shipping. I understand it's a global chip shortage, but when zero W came out, there wasn't one.

Bought one this morning from PiStore.us for shipment to the United States for $15 + $8 shipping.[1]

1. https://www.pishop.us/product/raspberry-pi-zero-w-2/

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