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Re: The IKEA catalogue through the ages

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Post by johanneskanybal »

iamacyborg wrote: post #48
arketyp wrote: post #6

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I wonder to what extent it's due to considering the environmental impact bad publicity.

Given IKEA essentially produce throwaway furniture by design, I don't think they've got much of a leg to stand on when it comes to environmental responsibility. Just buying more stuff is literally how they have historically marketed themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBqhIVyfsRg

The price point might make people buy more that's true but calling it throwaway is hardly fair, still have a fair amount of 20 year old ikea stuff around the house and they're pretty extreme about quality assurance.

Re: The IKEA catalogue through the ages

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Post by cj »

johanneskanybal wrote: post #49
cj wrote: post #43

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> without killing trees and adding to landfills. I wonder what leads to worse pollution. A world where all information is printed and there are are no computers, or a world where no one uses paper and computers, cell phones, Kindles, etc proliferate.

Those are not the options though since personal electronics aren't going anywhere. It's either computers and papers or a similar amount of computers but at least less paper.

I realize that. It's more of a thought experiment.

Re: The IKEA catalogue through the ages

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Post by tdrdt »

draugadrotten wrote: post #32
tdrdt wrote: post #29

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This is from 2012 and was done without IKEA's consent.

How about the prison numbers on the black person's t-shirt from 2021? https://www.businessinsider.com/ikea-2021-catalog-delayed-im... https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/ikea-offensive-racial-image-b... and the "can't be black for the greek market" from 2018? https://www.thelocal.se/20180206/ikea-agent-tells-actor-he-c... Point I am trying to make is that IKEA is a slick global company that is not "good" in a moral sense…

I am sorry but I don't get your point. This is something almost all companies do. If you are going to release thousands of catalogues you don't want things in it that could offense people. I think it would have been the same if the t-shirt contained some black-metal logo for example.

For the other example it's the same. I'm from the Netherlands so an IKEA ad with a black man would not surprise me, but for example an Arab man with a turban would. In the advertising world you want to connect with your target audience. I have a hard time believing this has anything to do with racism because their catalogues are full of people from all over the planet.

Anyway, I don't like IKEA products, I think they are rubbish. But I like the fact they use a lot of 3D renders.

Re: The IKEA catalogue through the ages

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Post by mattowen_uk »

arketyp wrote: post #40
mattowen_uk wrote: post #18

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Compared to this though? "Ikea has for years sold children’s furniture made from wood linked to vast illegal logging in protected Russian forests, an Earthsight investigation has found." https://www.earthsight.org.uk/news/press-release-illegal-rus...

I was not implying anything very factually based, just a decision based on people's perception. Like the ban on plastic straws.

In this day and age, peoples perception is everything, and facts seem to be unimportant.

Re: The IKEA catalogue through the ages

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Post by rightbyte »

smcl wrote: post #36
rightbyte wrote: post #9

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I remember a time when you wanted (some) adds. I had a "No adds but the Cinema timetable and catalogues please" on my mailbox. I almost miss the paper adds. Somehow they were wildly more relevant ...

Ha, does the postman/postwoman[0] respect the sign? I've got a "nevhazujte letáky" sticker on my mailbox ("no flyers/ads") that is completely ignored. As an immigrant this is particularly grating around election season when my mailbox is stuffed with material from a couple of anti-immigration candidates. [0] - I just realised that I only use the Scottish gender-neutral slang "postie" and don't know the correct one in…

Ye, at the time the Cinema flyer guy actually did read the signs and we got the flyer, but almost no other flyers.

The mailman proper, if I can call them that, did however deliver all stamped mail no matter what. The "no adds"-sign does not work for stamped adds, or like flyers put into the newspaper, etc.

Re: The IKEA catalogue through the ages

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Post by arcbyte »

cj wrote: post #43
jasode wrote: post #27

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>, but the IKEA catalog is perfect for casual browsing and getting new ideas for stuff I would've never bought otherwise. Understand the advantage of serendipity by flipping through pages instead of entering product search queries. Fyi, the latest 2022 catalogs are available online with the typical "print book" layout and also downloadable as pdf: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/customer-service/catalogues/ With pdf catal…

> without killing trees and adding to landfills. I wonder what leads to worse pollution. A world where all information is printed and there are are no computers, or a world where no one uses paper and computers, cell phones, Kindles, etc proliferate.

Paper actually reduces pollution because trees are farmed and replanted in managed forests like crops with decades long seasons.

The more paper we use, the more trees we plant.

Re: The IKEA catalogue through the ages

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Post by smcl »

rightbyte wrote: post #55
smcl wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha, does the postman/postwoman[0] respect the sign? I've got a "nevhazujte letáky" sticker on my mailbox ("no flyers/ads") that is completely ignored. As an immigrant this is particularly grating around election season when my mailbox is stuffed with material from a couple of anti-immigration candidates. [0] - I just realised that I only use the Scottish gender-neutral slang "postie" and don't know the correct one in…

Ye, at the time the Cinema flyer guy actually did read the signs and we got the flyer, but almost no other flyers. The mailman proper, if I can call them that, did however deliver all stamped mail no matter what. The "no adds"-sign does not work for stamped adds, or like flyers put into the newspaper, etc.

Oh yeah I wouldn't expect the mail carrier to make a judgement call on when I want mail if my name and address was on an envelope. But for the flyers from supermarkets and things that get stuffed into every mailbox should really respect the "no flyers" sticker. Ah well, it's only a minor inconvenience in the end

Re: The IKEA catalogue through the ages

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Post by smcl »

davemo wrote: post #44
smcl wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha, does the postman/postwoman[0] respect the sign? I've got a "nevhazujte letáky" sticker on my mailbox ("no flyers/ads") that is completely ignored. As an immigrant this is particularly grating around election season when my mailbox is stuffed with material from a couple of anti-immigration candidates. [0] - I just realised that I only use the Scottish gender-neutral slang "postie" and don't know the correct one in…

I have a friend who is a mail-carrier (which I think is the most accurate gender-neutral term) for Canada Post. She refers to herself often as "postie" as well, and her co-workers as "posties". :]

Ah nice, a quick search revealed it's used in Australia, NZ and Canada too :D

Re: The IKEA catalogue through the ages

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Post by yobbo »

So many of the designs are timeless classics, but the older pictures make them look dated. It's the look-and-feel of the room, decor, colour balance, lightning, picture quality that make the pieces in the pictures look dated, as if they "belong in the past".

If you place these exact pieces in an otherwise modernly decorated room (colour balance of walls/ceilings/lightning), and photograph with modern style - they instead look classy and timeless.

It's rare that people can isolate which sensory impressions make them react in a certain way emotionally. Here it's clearly not the designs, but the styling/lightning/photos.

Re: The IKEA catalogue through the ages

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Post by midasuni »

johanneskanybal wrote: post #51
iamacyborg wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given IKEA essentially produce throwaway furniture by design, I don't think they've got much of a leg to stand on when it comes to environmental responsibility. Just buying more stuff is literally how they have historically marketed themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBqhIVyfsRg

The price point might make people buy more that's true but calling it throwaway is hardly fair, still have a fair amount of 20 year old ikea stuff around the house and they're pretty extreme about quality assurance.

Indeed, IKEA stuff is really well built, solid, and lasts for years. I’ve had so many bad pieces of furniture from other manufacturers, IKEA just lasts, year after year, move after move

The “IKEA is crap” thing seems to be an American trope.

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