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Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Post by WalterGR » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 9:16 AM UTC

redis_mlc wrote: post #41

blueblisters wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1B is very impressive but more than twice that in the same time really puts the capacity, scale and reach of the Chinese State at a different level. Still I am curious why China is not opening up the borders to visitors?

> 1B is very impressive Those are Sino* vaccines, which are only about 51% effective. (WHO considers 50% to be ineffective.)

The WHO says

"A large multi-country Phase 3 trial has shown that 2 doses, administered at an interval of 21 days, have an efficacy of 79% against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection 14 or more days after the second dose. Vaccine efficacy against hospitalization was 79%."

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-sin...

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Post by oblio » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 9:20 AM UTC

OJFord wrote: post #38

crummy wrote: post #2

A bit odd topic but the commas seem strange in the numbers there: >Total Vaccination Doses: 1,00,13,38,625 Is that an Indian thing?

The words for the orders of magnitude don't group by thousand like in English (*thousand, million, billion, and so on) but by thousand (hazaar), hundred thousand (lakh), ten million (crore), and I don't know what next. So the comma separation reflects the words, as in English. > 38,625 38 hazaar ... Vs. 38 thousand ... > 13,38,625 vs. 1,338,625 13 lakh ... Vs. 1.3 million ... > 1,00,13,38,625 vs. 1,001,338,625 100 cr…

> The words for the orders of magnitude don't group by thousand like in English

It's not only in English, as far as I know it's almost everywhere else, the entire Western world plus its former colonies and I think even places like China.

The Indian subcontinent is the exception.

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Post by hiyer » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 9:43 AM UTC

OJFord wrote: post #38

crummy wrote: post #2

A bit odd topic but the commas seem strange in the numbers there: >Total Vaccination Doses: 1,00,13,38,625 Is that an Indian thing?

The words for the orders of magnitude don't group by thousand like in English (*thousand, million, billion, and so on) but by thousand (hazaar), hundred thousand (lakh), ten million (crore), and I don't know what next. So the comma separation reflects the words, as in English. > 38,625 38 hazaar ... Vs. 38 thousand ... > 13,38,625 vs. 1,338,625 13 lakh ... Vs. 1.3 million ... > 1,00,13,38,625 vs. 1,001,338,625 100 cr…

We have Arab after Crore, but it's not commonly used. We just say 1000 crore or 1 lakh crore, etc.

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Post by krishvs » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 9:45 AM UTC

WalterGR wrote: post #49

skocznymroczny wrote: post #46

Proponents of vaccines claim that we have to vaccinate most people and then we can 'go back to normal'. Is there any country with high vaccination rate that has gone back to normal? By normal I'd assume no mask mandates, outdoor or indoor, no vaccine passports of any kind. It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries.

> It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries. Only one country has reached 90%. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations How is the UAE doing compared to other countries?

I was in the Uae for 5 days last week and travelling again tomorrow. For me it looks like pre-covid times - everything is open. Cricket matches in stadiums to dubai expo. They report Mask wearing( atleast properly ) was maybe 40-50%. Countries like Oman with lower vaccination rates felt much safer because everyone seemed to take mask wearing much more seriously.

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Post by rathish_g » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 9:47 AM UTC

ing33k wrote: post #12

wow, the website has a link to OpenAPI https://apisetu.gov.in/api/cowin Nice !

Open APIs : https://apisetu.gov.in/ Datasets : https://data.gov.in/ Attendance of all government employees : https://attendance.gov.in/

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Post by eynsham » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 9:47 AM UTC

The union government claims here and elsewhere that it is administering ‘the world’s largest vaccination drive’. I wish it were true. But China is far ahead.⁰ The website also remarks on a ‘world record of 2.5 Cr+ Vaccinations in a day’: China has reached nearly 3 crore (=30 million) as a weekly mean.¹ Vaccination was an opportunity to shine in comparison to China, but the union government seems to have moved rather slowly (not a fault unique to it):

> India’s daily vaccinations surpassed 10 million doses on Friday, with national vaccine production more than doubling since April and set to rise again in the coming weeks.²

0: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-vaccinat...

1: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-19-vaccinatio...

2: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/30/india-covid-vaccine...

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Post by helge9210 » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 9:48 AM UTC

sampo wrote: post #45

NilayK wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

290 million fully vaccinated and 1,390 million total population. :) [1 crore = 10 million]

3rd doses are coming, and seem to give a good and needed additional boost to immunity (this is true for many other vaccines as well). 2 doses won't be "fully vaccinated" after one more year.

> 3rd doses are coming, and seem to give a good and needed additional boost to immunity

Did you mean antibody count?

> 2 doses won't be "fully vaccinated" after one more year

Purely administrative decision

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Post by revax » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:03 AM UTC

WalterGR wrote: post #49

skocznymroczny wrote: post #46

Proponents of vaccines claim that we have to vaccinate most people and then we can 'go back to normal'. Is there any country with high vaccination rate that has gone back to normal? By normal I'd assume no mask mandates, outdoor or indoor, no vaccine passports of any kind. It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries.

> It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries. Only one country has reached 90%. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations How is the UAE doing compared to other countries?

In my country (France) only +12yo are eligible for the vaccination and we are currently at 86.1% fully vaccinated in this population (88.3% with at least one dose).

Are we talking about the whole population or only eligible people?

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Post by Lapsa » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:05 AM UTC

Citizens Fully Vaccinated

NaN Crore + NaN Lakh

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Post by option_greek » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:06 AM UTC

As per the serology report that comes out once in a while that uses random sampling, most cities/towns/places have 60-70% people already having anti bodies. It is assumed that almost everyone acquired immunity due to infection at this point in India. However, there is almost no antivax moment as such in India so vaccination will continue throttled only by the availability (with 3 more companies nearing approvals for their new vaccines). Vaccines at this point are serving the same purpose as a booster shot (with the long duration between the shots probably helping).