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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by forty »

vadfa wrote: post #19
stefan_ wrote: post #6

Since this is Google making the SoC, surely we have Linux drivers within a month for it? Already upstreamed? Some register documentation? I didn't check, but I suppose the answer is "no". Can't keep pointing at Qualcomm anymore, I guess.

Upstreamed? Why would they want to deal with that kind of crap?

May I ask you what experience you have with upstreaning or not upstreaming kernel patches that have led you to make this comment? (I have recently read very interesting articles/presentation from Netflix and Google about both approaches and had a conclusion opposite to yours).

This is also relevant https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Android-...

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by saghm »

gambiting wrote: post #10
Thaxll wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they release driver for hardware not available to the public?

What do you mean not available to the public? You can buy this phone now, no?

Usually these devices become available for pre-order on the day of the announcement, but take a bit longer to ship out.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by ehsankia »

whichquestion wrote: post #49
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

5 years of security updates, 3 years of feature updates. On the page it says on the 12th footnote, "Feature drops for at least 3 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US. Your Pixel will receive feature drops during the applicable Android update and support periods for the phone. See g.co/pixel/updates for details." On https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 it says…

Historically, they have. Older pixels all had 2 year feature 3 year security, but ended up getting 3 year feature+security.

Although, after 1-2 year, the features get a bit thinner because a lot of the newer features rely on new hardware that the older phones don't fully have. Sometimes they try to make it work, like how Astrophotography was available on older pixels but didn't work quite as well as on Pixel 4. But in general, they probably put the "at least" because it's hard to guarantee that a feature in 5 years will be backportable to Pixel 6.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by _xy8h »

dreamer7 wrote: post #37

One interesting thing to note is how much more high-budget Hollywood style Apple's event feels in comparison to Google's event. Having watched the two events on successive days, some things stand out - Apple throws numbers repeatedly at you through out the presentation and you end up remembering quite a few useless statistics (55.7 billion transitors in M1 Max) Apple makes a much bigger deal about each device with lo…

> The weirdest thing in the Google presentation is that several sections had presenters talking to a different camera than facing the screen. That just felt very strange.

B-Camera angles are common in interviews. It's to help create a less formal and less stuffy 'presentation' like feel. It's intended to be more of a "you're standing there, somewhat behind the scenes" feel.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by rewq4321 »

mellosouls wrote: post #28

Before rushing in to purchase, note that in some regions, you can claim back a pair of Bose 700 after purchase of the Pixel (at no extra cost)... eg: https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB

Pixel hyphen offers? What a scammy looking domain. This isn't the first time I've seen a large company do this. Perfect way to help phishers confuse customers.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by kisamoto »

I think normally I'd look for the Pixel or the iPhone but my next purchase will be supporting FairPhone.

When I think about how powerful I need my phone to be I don't need the best. I want something I can fix and update myself; something that's supported for more than a couple of years; something that is a little "better" for the planet.

Does anybody use all of the new power of these incredible devices?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by crumpled »

causi wrote: post #21
kllrnohj wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're confusing "not implementing" with "disabling". There is no default-enabled HDMI out on any SoC. Rather you have to wire it up and enable it, which includes paying the HDMI licensing fees (and also test that it actually works)

My bad. "Are they still denying us basic functionality that's been part of smartphone USB ports since MHL in 2011 for the express purpose of making us buy crap we don't want?"

You're the only person I've heard of using HDMI out of their cell phone USB port. So, I can definitely see a vendor deciding not to provide it and not pay a license for that technology on every handset they sell.
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