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Post by amelius »

systemvoltage wrote: post #43
killion wrote: post #23

I think that Apple suffers from not having that person at the top with taste who was willing to say “this is shit”. The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left. There were misses under Steve like the Cube where there wasn’t a market. But the product was great. Now there is a market but the product is middling like the Watch. Yes the watch was started when he w…

This is apparently not cool these days. I think we’ve lost our spirit of what made SV great. Now it’s just identity politics, pessimism and general stagnancy as Peter Thiel puts it. I honestly kind of want to go back to 2005 - what a time to be alive.

> I think we’ve lost our spirit of what made SV great.

Innovation is what made SV great. Now it is just evolutionary updates at a very slow pace.

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Post by dkarp »

killion wrote: post #23

I think that Apple suffers from not having that person at the top with taste who was willing to say “this is shit”. The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left. There were misses under Steve like the Cube where there wasn’t a market. But the product was great. Now there is a market but the product is middling like the Watch. Yes the watch was started when he w…

I didn't know about the Cube[1], so thanks for sharing. Only sold for 1 year and then discontinued.

Laptops are now dominant and have outsold desktops for a long time, but in year 2000 that wasn't the case. So the Cube seems like a false start down that path. Kind of like Jobs knew the future, but was a little too ahead of his time on that one.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Mac_G4_Cube

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Post by microtonal »

killion wrote: post #23

I think that Apple suffers from not having that person at the top with taste who was willing to say “this is shit”. The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left. There were misses under Steve like the Cube where there wasn’t a market. But the product was great. Now there is a market but the product is middling like the Watch. Yes the watch was started when he w…

The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left.

Mostly on the Mac. The butterfly keyboard and how Apple handled it, were terrible. And macOS quality had gone down release after release. But I have never had any serious software or hardware quality issues with the iPhone, Apple Watch, AirPods or any other products. It seems that they had just lost focus on the Mac.

However, the Mac seems to be rebounding. I have a M1 MacBook Air and it is stellar - probably their best new Mac in decades. Also, I haven't had many issues with macOS 11 so far.

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Post by LewisVerstappen »

microtonal wrote: post #54
killion wrote: post #23

I think that Apple suffers from not having that person at the top with taste who was willing to say “this is shit”. The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left. There were misses under Steve like the Cube where there wasn’t a market. But the product was great. Now there is a market but the product is middling like the Watch. Yes the watch was started when he w…

The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left. Mostly on the Mac. The butterfly keyboard and how Apple handled it, were terrible. And macOS quality had gone down release after release. But I have never had any serious software or hardware quality issues with the iPhone, Apple Watch, AirPods or any other products. It seems that they had just lost focus on the Mac…

Have you used iOS 15?

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Post by skeeter2020 »

killion wrote: post #23

I think that Apple suffers from not having that person at the top with taste who was willing to say “this is shit”. The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left. There were misses under Steve like the Cube where there wasn’t a market. But the product was great. Now there is a market but the product is middling like the Watch. Yes the watch was started when he w…

The guys at Pontiac who had this power with the Aztek probably thought they had taste; who defines this?

Jobs never cared about the type of non-functional quality that we typically do in the software world; there are plenty of cases where he picked design aesthetics over performance, reliability, and everything else.

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Post by echlebek »

killion wrote: post #23

I think that Apple suffers from not having that person at the top with taste who was willing to say “this is shit”. The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left. There were misses under Steve like the Cube where there wasn’t a market. But the product was great. Now there is a market but the product is middling like the Watch. Yes the watch was started when he w…

How do you explain iTunes then?

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Post by WalterBright »

jedberg wrote: post #9

I think Apple would be an even more interesting company if he were still around. Maybe not as big or as profitable, but certainly more interesting. I wish he hadn't been so strongheaded about herbal remedies and whatnot. He had the more curable kind of cancer, had he taken it seriously earlier. As someone who has lost family to pancreatic cancer, it really upset me to learn that he didn't use his vast resources to do…

Some of Jobs' later success probably came from his knowledge of his own mortality. This enabled him to shoot for the moon and drive as hard as he could.

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

smoldesu wrote: post #27
geoffpado wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to be getting downvoted, so to help give some context, these are supposedly Jobs’s last words: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/oct/31/steve-job...

Shortly after his... other last words to his family. https://nypost.com/2018/08/02/steve-jobs-told-his-daughter-s...

From my experience... Cancer medication and treatment does awful things to people.

I wouldn't judge Jobs for the things he said while dying. However I'd judge him for his actions while he was living. Or rather, listen to the judgements of people who were close to him. So I have a hard time admiring him, though he was at the centre of a lot of admirable stuff.

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Post by killion »

LewisVerstappen wrote: post #55
microtonal wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left. Mostly on the Mac. The butterfly keyboard and how Apple handled it, were terrible. And macOS quality had gone down release after release. But I have never had any serious software or hardware quality issues with the iPhone, Apple Watch, AirPods or any other products. It seems that they had just lost focus on the Mac…

Have you used iOS 15?

Agreed. Even a little thing like Safari having the close button on the wrong side in iOS 15 would have gotten someone fired.

Multitasking in iPadOS is also a good example of non-Mac software being near unusable.

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