Just to put a bit of competitive pressure on the butchers at Netflix, for Seinfeld S01-S04 there are 1080p torrents with the correct 4:3 aspect ratio:
‘Seinfeld’ fans upset that Netflix’s aspect ratio cuts out jokes
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#52It's times like this that I think that piracy is the only way to preserve pop culture.
I sometimes dream of there being a license to pirate, kind of like paying for Netflix. You'd pay 15 bucks per month to an agency that monitors the well known trackers and divides the proceeds accordingly. Or maybe a cloud service where scene releases can be uploaded and people can pay for monthly access. Just anything that lets the copyright holders to have their pound of flesh, while allowing the people actually invested in the quality of the product and its distribution do their thing.
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#53It's times like this that I think that piracy is the only way to preserve pop culture.
I maintain a cultural archive of about 60 terabytes for this purpose. I have both the original and upscaled Simpsons and Seinfeld, but I mostly focus on stuff that people never think about (ever hear of Jon Benjamin Has a Van, that sort of thing). As storage mediums and formats change I carry it forward, last year I started adding YouTube creators. Eventually I'll hand that task off to my daughter if she also sees th…
That was a good show. Got any Exit 57?
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#54For me as a huge Seinfeld fan this is practically painful to watch. Just yesterday some folks have been bragging about how Netfilx proactively matches compensation of their emps - great - maybe that's a mistake. Because given how stupid such a decision is, how bad their recommendations are, plus their home grown productions getting worse with every week passing by, I wonder if it isn't time to weed out a little. Seem…
Just remember you are probably part of a relatively small and relatively enlightened portion of the population. Netflix will gladly piss you off if it means they get more profit out of the bulk of their customer base, who are just interested in consuming more.
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#5516:9 reframes of Seinfeld have been around a long time. Did Netflix reframe anything or are they using these existing versions? For what it's worth the reframed version is not a simple crop, and in fact sometimes previously-unused parts of the film are used[1]. It's not just a crop/upscale of the original broadcasts, though perhaps the same effort didn't go into this reframing as The Wire, which as others have noted…
Yeah, I used to see it in bars all the time 10 years ago. Full 16x9, full HD. It was clear that they went back to the original film to make an HD version.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have a center channel?
No, stereo speakers. Is it not feeding center into both or something?
Probably not, or the mix might be off. It's worth checking. Your experience seems consistent with a missing center track (which contains most of the dialogue sound).
Re: ‘Seinfeld’ fans upset that Netflix’s aspect ratio cuts out jokes
#57Back when the show broadcast for the first time, I didn't understand the big "Filmed in Panavision" logo at the end of the credits.
Now I do: The producers filmed the show using equipment that would allow remastering for HDTV.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I maintain a cultural archive of about 60 terabytes for this purpose. I have both the original and upscaled Simpsons and Seinfeld, but I mostly focus on stuff that people never think about (ever hear of Jon Benjamin Has a Van, that sort of thing). As storage mediums and formats change I carry it forward, last year I started adding YouTube creators. Eventually I'll hand that task off to my daughter if she also sees th…
One of the tragic effects of the MAFIAA's legal efforts to stop piracy, was that, though they could never reduce the amount of popular stuff being pirated, they did manage to shut down a lot of niche sites or private trackers, where people had meticulously curated rare and obscure content that was impossible to get anywhere else.
I recently discoveree the "kai" version of popular animes, meaning a recut of the hundred of episodes by fans to remove repeatitions, fillers, useless flashbacks and long stares or empty dialogs that just waste time.
You can now watch the entire Dragon Ball and DBZ in half the time it should take, missing nothing from the original, saving on frustration.
There are gigabytes of content, it's crazy to me some people spend years on those and just give them away as torrents, doing a better job that the right holders swimming in money.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I maintain a cultural archive of about 60 terabytes for this purpose. I have both the original and upscaled Simpsons and Seinfeld, but I mostly focus on stuff that people never think about (ever hear of Jon Benjamin Has a Van, that sort of thing). As storage mediums and formats change I carry it forward, last year I started adding YouTube creators. Eventually I'll hand that task off to my daughter if she also sees th…
That was a good show. Got any Exit 57?
First I've heard of it, but that is exactly the sort of thing I'm going for, I'll check it out. I thought I had most of the UCB related stuff, but it goes to show you how much of this stuff will fall through the cracks once we have a generation or two of streamers. My white whale is Viva Variety[0], I've even requested it at some of the private clubs and nobody can find it.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
The series was filmed in... film. There is no need for upscaling. They digitalised it from the film and it looks as if it was recorded yesterday.
It's pretty amazing the digital-equivalent resolution that actual film has (depends on the film size obviously but if you were to compare average film size to a average 10+ year digital camera it's a huge difference)
Take a look at old black and white recordings just before color became the norm. The details are insane.