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YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Headcanon accepted. The fae are notoriously afraid of iron, and harmed by merely touching it. What's the equivalent for Google?

Copyright law. Don't even need to prove you own your target video, just claim it and boom, you get what you want (redirect monetization to your MCM, takedown the video, etc).

That's not affecting Googs though, that's affecting users you have a beef with instead. The Googs seem to be impervious to any kryptonite.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#52

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

> It's a shame a torrenting-based youtube wouldn't > really work for various reasons, both legal and social. https://joinpeertube.org/

I'd take "wouldn't really work" in this context to mean "not be very successful/widely used", a bar that PeerTube has yet to pass IMO.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#53
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Headcanon accepted. The fae are notoriously afraid of iron, and harmed by merely touching it. What's the equivalent for Google?

Congressional hearings?

They've been there done that. They've been to the EU as well and came back with a tan (which let's face it is an impressive feat on its own). Have they even "suffered" fines in the EU that the Zuck has received?

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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The fact that people continue to be surprised by actions like this, betrays a lack of understanding of how content moderation works, and a willful lack of education on the part of YouTube. This video was taken down because 2 or 3 people reported it in short succession. Those reports flagged it for review by a human moderator, who removed it. If it had never been reported, it would have stayed up. If no one ever repor…

You really think this video was only reported recently by 2 or 3 people after 14 years? People will report and dislike videos all the time just to be trolls. I don't have any sources to link to on this outside of my experience moderating content on much smaller subreddits/forums, but I'm willing to extrapolate and imagine a video that's been up for 14 years with millions of views has received its fair share of report…

This video was recently part of a Vice article, which is going to multiply eyes on by several orders of magnitude.

It might not have been literally "2 or 3 people," but it's a reasonable assumption that the differentiating factor in 14 years is that a bunch of people saw it all at once, and some critical mass of those who saw it flagged it.

The fact that this one specifically was taken down while copycats and reuploads have not strongly suggest it was hit by community moderation flagging.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Headcanon accepted. The fae are notoriously afraid of iron, and harmed by merely touching it. What's the equivalent for Google?

Ad blockers.

Or really any non-curated browsing experience.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#56

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

> It's a shame a torrenting-based youtube wouldn't > really work for various reasons, both legal and social. https://joinpeertube.org/

Yeah, I know they exist. But they're never going to replace youtube in the foreseeable future, so having tools like youtube-dl, which would allow us to load content from youtube into peertube, for instance (or to archive it anywhere else), is important.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#57
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I kind of get it. Punching someone outside a boxing ring is pretty much always a bad move. A funny video where the funny part seems to be an unsuspecting person getting punched may "encourage violence". (I don't feel this way, but I could understand the reasoning.) The cat is out of the bag on this one though. So much so, that I'd argue the video now has cultural and historical significance that justifies its wanton…

>wanton violence

>punching someone outside of a boxing ring

I could probably find 100,000 unique instances of violence solely from big Hollywood studios on Youtube as we speak

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#58
I know people may be desensitized at this point, but if you can't see the correlation with the book 1984's consistent theme of the past and current being scrubbed of "wrongthink" that is thrown down the "memoryhole" to dispose of it, then I think we are all in for a far worse future than we would like.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#59

At this point, Google is pretty much the fae folk of tech: immensely powerful beings with inscrutable motives and mercurial dispositions, inclined to rain ruin on your head at the slightest provocation or even just on a whim. Best to leave a saucer of milk out for them at night, and studiously avoid the areas they control if you value your anything.

Headcanon accepted. The fae are notoriously afraid of iron, and harmed by merely touching it. What's the equivalent for Google?

>What's the equivalent for Google?

The aurora borealis perhaps? The sun could decide to throw us a particularly nasty geomagnetic storm one day and suddenly Google would go to fearsome tyrant to basically irrelevant overnight. I imagine most of us on HN would be out of a job too!

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#60

This is truly wrong. Far from censorship, this is a field test of memory-holing. Deleting a part of the history of the Internet (yes, this silly little nonsense video is now part of Modern Culture) is a Rubicon I'm shocked YouTube has the temerity to cross. I can't wait to see what more conventional history they'll delete. For now, note the conscious blowing-off, on YouTube's part, of all the re-uploads. Will they al…

I think you are confusing Youtube with a NGO. Google is a for profit company. Their mission is to make money, not to archive the internet. They are not your friend. Nor anybody's friend.

I get your rather stunted libertarian take, but fact of the matter is that they are not allowed to delete or remove evidence of crimes.
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