Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees • Hacker News Board

Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees

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Post by Heliosmaster » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 2:49 PM UTC

acdha wrote: post #33

aclelland wrote: post #7

Really interesting, will R2 support lifecycle rules like S3 does? We write around 90 million files per month to S3, if we could replace that with R2 and have the files automatically expire after 30 days that'd be a pretty amazing price reduction for us.

They appear to be focused on an automatic version: > Behind the scenes, R2 automatically and intelligently manages the tiering of data to drive both performance at peak load and low-cost for infrequently requested objects. We’ve gotten rid of complex, manual tiering policies in favor of what developers have always wanted out of object storage: limitless scale at the lowest possible cost.

GP isn't mentioning lifecycle to change storage tier, but to delete the files after some time.

Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees

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Post by the8472 » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 2:51 PM UTC

> R2 is designed with redundancy across a large number of regions for reliability. We plan on starting from automatic global distribution and adding back region-specific controls for when data has to be stored locally, as described above.

Does that mean automatic caching across regions? Low-latency read access everywhere without an extra CDN in front of it?

Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees

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Post by wiradikusuma » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 2:52 PM UTC

For those who don't want to wait, there's DigitalOcean Spaces (https://www.digitalocean.com/products/spaces/).

Disclaimer: I haven't used it, but planning to, since I already use their VPS.

Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees

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Post by slig » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 2:54 PM UTC

wiradikusuma wrote: post #53

For those who don't want to wait, there's DigitalOcean Spaces ( https://www.digitalocean.com/products/spaces/ ). Disclaimer: I haven't used it, but planning to, since I already use their VPS.

Scaleway also provides a similar service. Had an issue recently (deleted a bucket, and couldn't create another bucket with the same name) and their support replied back in minutes.

Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees

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Post by RulerOf » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 2:59 PM UTC

lokl wrote: post #36

BlackMiracle wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To host static websites, you use Cloudflare Pages.

Thanks, I am familiar with Pages, but I would like to know whether R2 can also be used for this purpose, in a similar fashion as S3.

Indeed, the Browser -> CDN -> Object storage static hosting model all under one roof is extremely appealing.

Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees

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Post by pier25 » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 3:03 PM UTC

This is really a game changer for storage. Well done Cloudflare.

How will other providers respond to this now?

AWS, GC, and others do not really pay for egress charges themselves. Those super high egress charges are pretty ridiculous.

Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees

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Post by Shadonototra » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 3:05 PM UTC

> $0.015 per GB of data stored per month

we are still living in 2007?

Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees

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Post by numair » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 3:09 PM UTC

There is one major reason S3 remains the king of storage for mobile media uploads: bucket notifications. Does R2 implement this feature? If so, I’m going to have to run some experiments with this...

Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees

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Post by 0xbkt » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 3:09 PM UTC

DoctorOW wrote: post #48

eastdakota wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That limitation doesn’t apply to the R2 service or Workers generally. We’ll update and clarify our ToS. Thanks for flagging!

But to clarify it _does_ apply to B2?

You may use Cloudflare Pages and Workers (whether in conjunction with a storage offering such as Cloudflare Workers KV and Durable Objects or not) to serve HTML content as well as non-HTML content (e.g., image files, audio files) other than video files.

See: https://www.cloudflare.com/supplemental-terms/ § Cloudflare Pages and Cloudflare Workers®

The said limitation should apply however to their tranditional service with orange on whether it is B2 or not. I am not sure if being a Bandwidth Alliance partner makes a difference.

Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees

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Post by greg-m » Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 3:10 PM UTC

sudhirj wrote: post #44

I know the Cloudflare team hangs out here, so thanks, and great job! This was absolutely necessary for my line of work. Couple of quick questions/confirmations: * R2 will support the same object sizes as S3? We have 500GB+ objects and could go to a 1TB per object. * R2 will support HTTP Range GETs, right? Egress bandwidth for objects on S3 is the biggest line item on the AWS bill for a company I work for, by an order…

Hey, I'm the PM for R2.

Yes to range requests. Current object limit is smaller than that, but we don't have a fundamental restriction there. Shoot me an email to gmckeon [at] cloudflare.