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Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by ngold »

judge2020 wrote: post #18
chairhairair wrote: post #12

The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views. The trending page on PeerTube shows a list of videos with at most a few dozen views. Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (seems to have been launched several years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube), or am I missing something? Does it really have an order of magnitude more Github stars ( https://github.com/Chocob…

A lot of people see the usefulness of PeerTube but don't move because the creators they watch are on YouTube. It's the same for the creators, though - they can't move off of YouTube entirely, because none of their viewers will go to a PeerTube instance just to watch that one creator. Thus nobody moves to PT unless there are other factors (like extremist creators moving because their videos keep getting removed by YT)…

Only folks that can sustain themselves, like forgotten weapons, are patreon supported. But you would have to create a channel from the beginning to be patreon supported.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

uuddlrlr wrote: post #31
jstx1 wrote: post #20

I was wondering who they were and why they were self-saboting. Then I saw that it's a channel with 20 subscribers on youtube with view numbers in the single digits for some videos. So somebody went from not being watched on youtube, to not being watched on peertube. How did this even make it to the front page?

Peertube is interesting tech, and YouTube's de facto monopoly on video hosting is less than ideal. Especially considering that it's owned by the world's largest attention harvesting operation.

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Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by lillecarl »

hortense wrote: post #37
lillecarl wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're probably still tracking me even though I pay right?

You can turn your history off if you want, but then you'll get suggestions of videos you've already watched.

I've noticed and turned it back on tbh, but does it actually mean they're not tracking me? They're already tracking me all over the web

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by gargron »

fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #6

One thing I really dislike about Fediverse services is that their landing pages are always about joining/signing up. For Twitter-like applications this might be ok. But for something like YouTube, I definitely want to browse the content a bit before signing up.

I've just opened the YouTube frontpage from a private window to see what it's like. There is literally nothing on there I'd want to click on. I think the value of YouTube is in 1) being able to link to a video 2) subscribing to creators and having them in your feed and 3) related videos. But none of that is the kind of browsing around you can do from the frontpage.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by rapnie »

chairhairair wrote: post #12

The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views. The trending page on PeerTube shows a list of videos with at most a few dozen views. Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (seems to have been launched several years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube), or am I missing something? Does it really have an order of magnitude more Github stars ( https://github.com/Chocob…

> Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (...), or am I missing something?

One reason of seeming more inpopular than it actually is, lies in that while there are many PeerTube instances, they are not all federating together. They are selective and some are not federating at all.

Also I am not sure if counting of views works all that well yet, and Likes require either signing up to individual instances, or spreading of video link via Mastodon to get liked (via ActivityPub integration).

Both the federation and the level of integration with other Fediverse apps is a work in progress and steadily improving.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by legitster »

uuddlrlr wrote: post #31
jstx1 wrote: post #20

I was wondering who they were and why they were self-saboting. Then I saw that it's a channel with 20 subscribers on youtube with view numbers in the single digits for some videos. So somebody went from not being watched on youtube, to not being watched on peertube. How did this even make it to the front page?

Peertube is interesting tech, and YouTube's de facto monopoly on video hosting is less than ideal. Especially considering that it's owned by the world's largest attention harvesting operation.

> de facto monopoly on video hosting

How do people believe this is even remotely true?

I have so many options to host videos, least of which is just housing itself on my own damn server!

I don't know if the complaint here is that no one else will do it for me for free, or that no one else will just hand me viewers for free.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by Razengan »

uuddlrlr wrote: post #31
jstx1 wrote: post #20

I was wondering who they were and why they were self-saboting. Then I saw that it's a channel with 20 subscribers on youtube with view numbers in the single digits for some videos. So somebody went from not being watched on youtube, to not being watched on peertube. How did this even make it to the front page?

Peertube is interesting tech, and YouTube's de facto monopoly on video hosting is less than ideal. Especially considering that it's owned by the world's largest attention harvesting operation.

> world's largest attention harvesting operation.

I don’t think Facebook owns YouTube :)

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by sircastor »

legitster wrote: post #57
uuddlrlr wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Peertube is interesting tech, and YouTube's de facto monopoly on video hosting is less than ideal. Especially considering that it's owned by the world's largest attention harvesting operation.

> de facto monopoly on video hosting How do people believe this is even remotely true? I have so many options to host videos, least of which is just housing itself on my own damn server! I don't know if the complaint here is that no one else will do it for me for free, or that no one else will just hand me viewers for free.

It’s not literally just hosting. That’s not that hard. It’s distribution, discovery, promotion, accessibility. Right now, if you want your video to be seen, you need to be on YouTube.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by rapnie »

supermatt wrote: post #25
chairhairair wrote: post #12

The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views. The trending page on PeerTube shows a list of videos with at most a few dozen views. Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (seems to have been launched several years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube), or am I missing something? Does it really have an order of magnitude more Github stars ( https://github.com/Chocob…

Peertube is really just an "app" providing a simple way to host and publish your content online outside the control of "service" providers that can also easily be accessed and shared by the "fediverse" (in this case activitypub supporting federated networks of servers and end users). You can consume peertube content with any activitypub client that supports its types. In short, peertube is an accessible way for users…

Yes, Owncast [0] is another example of a media app that is in the process of adding ActivityPub protocol support [1] and become part of the Fediverse. I hope they'll be largely compatible in the way they implemented their federation support.

[0] https://owncast.online/

[1] https://github.com/owncast/owncast/tree/gek/activity-pub-1

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