Israel seems to be trying to buy time before the inevitable happens. Not sure if it's good strategy to keep assassinating scientists when you're going to need every ounce of International support you can muster when the Iranians rain down on you with their nukes.
Mossad assassinated Iran’s chief nuke scientist with remote AI gun – report
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Iran and Israel are at low level war since many decades.
This question is out of pure curiosity: can you give me some examples of this "low level war" being fought? Specifically, what has Iran done that's along the same lines as murdering a nuclear scientist?
The conflict involves threats and hostility by Iran's leaders against Israel, and their declared objective to dissolve the Jewish state, Israel and Iran doesn't share frontiers but Iran finance support is key for terrorist groups like Hezbollah
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no world court or legal structure. The word "illegal" has no meaning in international affairs.
This action was performed in a specific country - Iran. I am sure it was illegal there. Isn't that enough?
There are many things which are illegal in Iran yet practiced widely, like consuming alcohol or being attracted to your own gender. I wouldn't use the Iranian book of laws as a moral compass myself, but to each their own.
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#54Not a lot of details in the article. I'm curious how 'AI' was actually used. Was it used to compensate for wind, distance, etc? Was it used to alert when the target was in range? Was it allowed to automatically recognize the target and deliver a kill shot? Was it used to make sure no innocents were behind him? Why did the apparatus weigh over a ton? It was only a matter of time before this happened though. With off-t…
The NYT article they're cribbing from has a lot more details, but yes, the AI was to compensate for wind, distance and latency to the operator: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/world/middleeast/iran-nuc...
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Re: Mossad assassinated Iran’s chief nuke scientist with remote AI gun – report
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Though you don't see Iran going around killing the people responsible for Israel's nuclear arsenal.
I can't imagine it's for lack of trying.
I rather not discuss the whole conflict. The fact is though, that modern Iran has little to no history of military intervention* and at least no history to suggest that any (if any really exists) ambition towards acquiring nuclear weapons is anything more than sabre-rattling.
* Wikipedia comes up with the odd missile-strike against the islamic state.
Edit: There's a difference between financing terrorism/freedom fighters, which about every country in the region (and basically everybody else) does, and preparing a pre-emptive nuclear strike.
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#56Iran should have nuclear weapons if their citizens can be assassinated by foreign powers that proceed to brag about it openly. Imagine if the reverse happened - an Israeli scientist killed by Iranian special forces. The United States would be revving up for Iraq 2.0 in a matter of hours.
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#57So this is a public bragging about illegally putting a gun in a foreign country and assassinating a person, all the while being comfortably sure that no national or international pushback will come. Quite disturbing to read.
Pretty badass. Does it prevent more nuclear weapons? Yes? Win in my book.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Iran and Israel are at low level war since many decades.
This question is out of pure curiosity: can you give me some examples of this "low level war" being fought? Specifically, what has Iran done that's along the same lines as murdering a nuclear scientist?
Bombing of the AMIA is one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_bombing#:~:text=The%20AMI....
Burgas bus bombing is another: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Burgas_bus_bombing
Arms, money and support for Hamas, Hezbollah and the Islamic Jihad is another one (Hezbollah is practically an IRGC unit). Arming various militias in Iraq, Yemen and Syria against Israel and its allies.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
This action was performed in a specific country - Iran. I am sure it was illegal there. Isn't that enough?
There are many things which are illegal in Iran yet practiced widely, like consuming alcohol or being attracted to your own gender. I wouldn't use the Iranian book of laws as a moral compass myself, but to each their own.
How bizarre for you to sidestep the issue and go after issues with the laws of Iran! In what country is it legal to assassinate a scientist?
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#60Not a lot of details in the article. I'm curious how 'AI' was actually used. Was it used to compensate for wind, distance, etc? Was it used to alert when the target was in range? Was it allowed to automatically recognize the target and deliver a kill shot? Was it used to make sure no innocents were behind him? Why did the apparatus weigh over a ton? It was only a matter of time before this happened though. With off-t…
According to NYT article the AI was used to compensate for the movement of the truck from the guns recoil and the 1.5 second round trip latency to the operator. Again according to the NYT what was astonishing was the accuracy. Fifteen rounds were shot and no one other than the target was injured. Of course, take it all with a grain of salt, as both Iran and Israel have reasons to lie about what actually went down. Is…
Don't really know how to feel about this.
On one hand, it could mean less collateral damage and fewer civilian casualties than drone strikes.
Just yesterday, the US had a drone strike that killed 10 civilians. The military and administration proceeded to lie about the strike and pretend they hit the target, but they were called out by the NY Times and had to backtrack.
We could see fewer civilian deaths with technology like this.
On the other hand, this could reduce the "barrier to action" that countries have before they attempt a targeted killing.
Which means even less "due process" for foreign internationals who are perceived to be enemies of the state. If the CIA thinks you're a threat, you're dead.
Let's ignore the question of how good the CIA is at intelligence-gathering.