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Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. Why are people afraid to use the real term for this? It's called censorship. Your provider is silently censoring your text messages. In peacetime. You can't expect it to improve when that's no longer the case.

Let's say I have a rule to block emails that mention "bitcoin" from arriving in my inbox. Is that censorship? Let's say, so many people have set up a similar rule that the email provider offers a quick way of adding that very rule. Is that censorship? Let's say, so many people use that "quick way" that the email provider turns it on by default. Is that censorship?

No, No, Yes. "Censorship" comes from the word "censor" - an intermediary who controls speech. Programmers need to stop assuming that every situation is scale- and convenience-invariant.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. Why are people afraid to use the real term for this? It's called censorship. Your provider is silently censoring your text messages. In peacetime. You can't expect it to improve when that's no longer the case.

Censorship would be intentionally preventing people from seeing something that they want to see. Here, the main intent is to prevent spam and nobody wants to see spam.

Even as a free speech advocate, it's hard to see a problem with this.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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I was pretty excited when ICANN opened up a bunch of new domain extensions, but it does sometimes feel like "all these extensions are great if you don't plan on using them". It was pretty cool that I managed to buy a bunch of domains like . , but to be honest I really don't see myself using my .blackfriday domain for anything. For that matter, I think that (somewhat ironically) `my-last-name.email` would not be taken…

I had .email for a while. Many shopping sites wouldn't actually let you use the address, presumably given some filter assuming that "email" was a fake address. Because my name ends with "ss", I switched over to .es, which conveniently is a country TLD (Spain). That's worked very well, though occasionally I'll get spam in Spanish, which cracks me up.

I wonder how well these new TLDs work for custom email if you use them with Google Workspaces / Google Apps for Domains or another reputable email hosting service. I've been using a custom domain (though a .net) for decades now and since I moved to Google Apps years ago I haven't had an issue being seen as spam.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Why are .net domain names relatively unpopular? New technology sites often use .io and .dev even when there are a lot of available .net names.

.net and .org were the original .xyz. Back in the late 90s and early 2000s they were seen as less reputable for businesses. I think they still carry some of that tarnish.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Before I get into email business(I run my own email forwarding service[0]), I don't understand why provider block those domains.

Then I immediately got it. The amount of spam emails from .xyz .click .faith .top is huge. And with every email comes from them, we have to run spam scanner, which isn't cheap. So we have to score those TLDs more sensitive.

https://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/tlds/ can give some insight about spam rate by tld.

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[0] https://mailwip.com

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Most of these new TLDs are just the .biz of the present moment. I went to email whitelist a decade ago and haven’t looked back.

What do you mean "email whitelist"?

Presumably a list of TLDs or domains they will receive email from rather than only blocking bad domains as they come up.
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