iOS on QEMU

Post by eins1234 » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 5:08 PM UTC

zaptrem wrote: post #37

colejohnson66 wrote: post #33

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As a “closed iOS” advocate, I personally believe the ability to do development outside of a macOS is a great idea. I’ve long wanted to make iOS apps, but I don’t have the money to shell out for a Mac. Yes, Hackintoshes are a thing, but you need certain hardware to do so, and even then, it’s still difficult (last I checked).

For casual app development I just run MacOS in a free VMWare instance on my Windows machine. It has no graphics acceleration but otherwise works flawlessly.

Post by handrous » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 5:34 PM UTC

ginja wrote: post #26

Aspos wrote: post #18

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These days, unfortunately, it is not possible. Well, you can virtualize MacOs, but you can not connect iOS device to it, nor you can run a virtual iOS device inside it. Apple went out of its way to deliberately disable physical phones connecting to a virtual MacOS. Any other USB device can be connected, but not an iphone.

I use this: https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM It works quite well for me. Simulator works fine (though graphics are slow) and so does connecting a physical phone (by passing through the USB controller).

Post by jakeinspace » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 6:21 PM UTC

colejohnson66 wrote: post #33

pojntfx wrote: post #28

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You can actually do this now, without emulation: https://github.com/tpoechtrager/cctools-port Zig are also working on it: https://zig.news/monthly/zig-monthly-august-2021-ios-support... The pioneer of software dictatorship will probably make this impossible or illegal as soon as it gains any traction though. And people will probably congratulate them for it in the name of "security".

As a “closed iOS” advocate, I personally believe the ability to do development outside of a macOS is a great idea. I’ve long wanted to make iOS apps, but I don’t have the money to shell out for a Mac. Yes, Hackintoshes are a thing, but you need certain hardware to do so, and even then, it’s still difficult (last I checked).

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 6:33 PM UTC

pojntfx wrote: post #28

giancarlostoro wrote: post #6

This would be interesting to see, I'm guessing the implications are being able to build iOS projects without requiring a Mac at any stage of the development process.

You can actually do this now, without emulation: https://github.com/tpoechtrager/cctools-port Zig are also working on it: https://zig.news/monthly/zig-monthly-august-2021-ios-support... The pioneer of software dictatorship will probably make this impossible or illegal as soon as it gains any traction though. And people will probably congratulate them for it in the name of "security".

Post by bluedino » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 7:06 PM UTC

jakeinspace wrote: post #55

colejohnson66 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a “closed iOS” advocate, I personally believe the ability to do development outside of a macOS is a great idea. I’ve long wanted to make iOS apps, but I don’t have the money to shell out for a Mac. Yes, Hackintoshes are a thing, but you need certain hardware to do so, and even then, it’s still difficult (last I checked).

I've never been an iOS or Mac developer, but I have had a few 5,1 Mac Pros. The release of m1 mac minis pretty much killed the used market for those, but you may still be able to find one for cheap. I was able to find a few 12-core 24-thread dual xeon models for around $250, but had to be patient. Add in 64GB of ECC RAM and an SSD upgrade, to Mojave or Catalina, and you have a beefy enough development system for arou…