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Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

#51
If you recall the takeover of the criminal encrypted mobile network used by drug smugglers recently.

That case started around the same time the Australian Government introduced new online data laws. It had to be urgently rushed through with no reason (at the time) given.

The investigation was done by the US with help from Australia Government - I wonder why?

This is just the next step in those laws.

Edit:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/8/22524307/anom-encrypted-me...

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just another thing to add to the pile. Australians have got it too good to care about this sort of thing. Like western society and climate change, taking any kind of action gets in the way of enjoying the fucking weekend; don't be such a fucking downer. More sunshine I say!

> Australians have got it too good to care about this sort of thing. Like western society and climate change, taking any kind of action gets in the way of enjoying the fucking weekend; don't be such a fucking downer. More sunshine I say! Nonsense. The problem is that the minority parties who oppose overreach like this are treated as dirty (Liberal Democratic Party) and the major parties all support crap like this. An…

For the record, the Greens are the only major party to oppose this overreach. (Major in the sense that they are the 3rd largest party outside of the ALP and the Liberal parties, and larger than the National party.[*])

From the article:

  Green Senator Lidia Thorpe described the bill as “terribly flawed” and “problematic”, cited comments in the Richardson review that existing powers were adequate, and criticised the lack of time to consider the government’s amendments.

  “Unsurprisingly, the two major parties are in complete lockstep with each other and they are leading us down the road to a surveillance state,” she said.
[*] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Party_of_Australia

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

#53
Wow.

I don't know how other Aussies feel about this, but to me this is so atrocious I just had to join HN to discuss it.

This is sufficient motivation to abandon my Australian citizenship entirely and move to a country that is not dominated by totalitarian-authoritarian policies designed to impede the progress of a free and open society.

This policy is clearly designed to make sure another Assange-type situation does not happen again.

Australians need to learn to watch their (digital) back with even more care and attention than previously. We do not have the rights we think we do.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

#54
post #43

I am disgusted by the mostly apathetic response in Australia to this terrible legislation.

There’s a difference between apathetic and powerless. Everyone I’ve talked to about this including my non-techie family all “care” and agree it’s total bullshit, multiple called/wrote in against it, but every single one of us knows nothing we do will ever stop or change anything. What are we supposed to do exactly? Write in and have them completely ignore us? Protest in the streets.. oh wait that’s illegal now. Speak…

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Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

#55
post #53

Wow. I don't know how other Aussies feel about this, but to me this is so atrocious I just had to join HN to discuss it. This is sufficient motivation to abandon my Australian citizenship entirely and move to a country that is not dominated by totalitarian-authoritarian policies designed to impede the progress of a free and open society. This policy is clearly designed to make sure another Assange-type situation does…

Will you still abandon your Austrialian citizenship if you find out that no other first-world country meets your standards?

I doubt it.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

#56

Thousands of police and military on the streets maintaining "order". People essentially under house arrest and not allowed to assemble or travel. And now this.

Unfortunately many people still defend it and cheer for it. Fear is a powerful emotion and politicians know how to exploit it. Especially when the enemy is invisible and everyone you meet is a potential 'threat'.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

#57
post #53

Wow. I don't know how other Aussies feel about this, but to me this is so atrocious I just had to join HN to discuss it. This is sufficient motivation to abandon my Australian citizenship entirely and move to a country that is not dominated by totalitarian-authoritarian policies designed to impede the progress of a free and open society. This policy is clearly designed to make sure another Assange-type situation does…

Will you still abandon your Austrialian citizenship if you find out that no other first-world country meets your standards? I doubt it.

A typically purile argument - "the other kids are doing it, why can't Australians also do it?" Just: no.

There are plenty of states that are still fighting this totalitarian-authoritarian effort. Austrian police can't modify peoples data online for their purposes.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

#59
They require to be “reasonably necessary, and proportionate” ...sound ambiguous to me, and most importantly, what is "serious offences" or "serious criminal activity on the internet". It says crimes that carry jail time of three or more years. I assume that is minimum sentence. Does not sound extremely serious.threat to harm gives 5years , stalking 3 years, the police will have a field day with this, just think how often these happen online.
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