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Re: A CSS framework to recreate Windows 7 GUI

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Post by verve_rat »

jonathanlydall wrote: post #23
AussieWog93 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I held out on "upgrading" to 10 until support was dropped last year. 7 was a huge step forward, with better performance than Vista and all kinds of QOL improvements (Windows Search, DX11 being some big ones). 10 also has some amazing improvements (automatic driver installs via Windows Update being the first thing that springs to mind[1]), but they've unfortunately let ads and anti-features (Bing, Cortana, App "Sugges…

I’ve been using Windows 10 Pro since release and honestly none of this stuff has ever been a real issue for me. It’s stolen like 30 mins from my life overall in the last 5 years disabling the stuff that I don’t care for. On initial install there were some Windows Store apps I didn’t care for (like Candy Crush) I just normally uninstalled and they never came back and no new apps ever installed themselves. I disabled C…

I think that clickable text on the login screen is what people are talking about. I'm in NZ and for a brief time they were ads in the fullest sense.

I don't know if MS changed its mind, or if there is no market in NZ for those adds, but now they link through to MS web sites. So sort of ads for MS properties.

But it does fuck me right off. Get FUCKING ADS out of my OS.

Re: A CSS framework to recreate Windows 7 GUI

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Post by jeroenhd »

LordRishav wrote: post #13

There are some details from the Win7 UI that is still not in the CSS, for example the gloss which appears when the mouse pointer hovers over the window action buttons. Next, the dropdown menu isn't like Win7, it follows your browser/operating system's theme. For example, on Firefox-based browsers running on GNU/Linux it follows your GTK theme, rather than the Win7 theme. On standard Chromium-based browsers, it shows…

Firefox has put some restrictions on scrollbar styling after websites began abusing it for their branding at the cost of accessibility. Other browsers did something similar. I'm not sure if you can even customise the dropdown menu if it's styled by your OS by default, either.

You're right about the missing highlights. Those feel like something not too difficult to implement with a CSS animation and some extra colored borders, so hopefully someone will write a PR for that eventually.

Re: A CSS framework to recreate Windows 7 GUI

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Post by smichel17 »

croes wrote: post #49
foxpurple wrote: post #32

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This is such a hacker news comment. Somehow a group of people supposedly good at using computers struggle to work out what a button is while the average user seems to have no problems.

The average user didn't find it strange to click at "Start" to shutdown Windows.

It's not strange. You tell the computer to "start to shutdown" and after 5 or 10 minutes of updates, it finally finishes!

Re: A CSS framework to recreate Windows 7 GUI

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Post by grishka »

foxpurple wrote: post #32
superasn wrote: post #28

What I love about these old designs is how obvious everything is. You just can't miss the button or the tabs. Now after all this skeuomorphic design revolution it's so hard to tell, is it a button, text, link etc. It probably looks better but it is at the cost of extra thinking for the user.

This is such a hacker news comment. Somehow a group of people supposedly good at using computers struggle to work out what a button is while the average user seems to have no problems.

Oh the average user does very much have problems. They just don't have a place to talk about them out loud. With modern design, people get confused all the time whether something is clickable. Seen that happen so many times I lost count.

Windows 7 had the last good, properly-desktop UI before the existence of touchscreen laptops ruined everything. And then came the plague of borderless everything.

Re: A CSS framework to recreate Windows 7 GUI

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Post by ensiferum »

croes wrote: post #49
foxpurple wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such a hacker news comment. Somehow a group of people supposedly good at using computers struggle to work out what a button is while the average user seems to have no problems.

The average user didn't find it strange to click at "Start" to shutdown Windows.

I think the "Start" was for the user as in "Start here" ^^

Re: A CSS framework to recreate Windows 7 GUI

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Post by TonyTrapp »

swalsh wrote: post #52

This is going to be used by some scammer to make a more convincing webpage to trick someone's grandmother into thinking her web browser has a virus or something.

That can be - and indeed has been - done with much, much less effort than using a complete stylesheet. A static image will be enough to fool most people.

Re: A CSS framework to recreate Windows 7 GUI

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Post by quietbritishjim »

husarcik wrote: post #50
quietbritishjim wrote: post #47

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A saw a really obvious instance of this recently, with an old lady trying to use a self checkout. The machine asked which payment option you wanted: cash, credit card, voucher, etc. She selected cash. That brought you to a screen with a button in the middle allowing you to switch quickly to pay with card (to pay the remaining balance after you'd part paid with cash). The button text was "pay with card". The problem i…

Sounds like they could have labeled it "pay with card instead".

What you've done there is add some extra text saying that this is not a current status - it's an action you could take. You could just as well have added "(this is a button)" instead. Why not just make it visually obvious that it's a button?

Edit: You could say something similar about any non-verbal cues. Why not say "error" instead of using a red error icon? Why not say "left" instead of using a left-pointing arrow? Etc. The answer is always that (if used appropriately) it lowers the user's cognitive load. Admittedly sometimes it's reasonable to use both e.g. usually you do say "error" in words too, and maybe your suggestion would also be useful for this button.

Re: A CSS framework to recreate Windows 7 GUI

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Post by mortenlarsen »

AussieWog93 wrote: post #17
dqv wrote: post #12

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I've been feeling that way, but I can't tell if it's rational. Windows XP and 7 were the versions of the OS I used the most growing up. Nostalgia? Ever since Windows 8, the OS has felt a lot slower and the UI isn't consistent. I was running something the other day that needed privilege escalation and I had this realization that I would have no idea if a particular UI was cobbled-together-Microsoft-UI or if it was cob…

I held out on "upgrading" to 10 until support was dropped last year. 7 was a huge step forward, with better performance than Vista and all kinds of QOL improvements (Windows Search, DX11 being some big ones). 10 also has some amazing improvements (automatic driver installs via Windows Update being the first thing that springs to mind[1]), but they've unfortunately let ads and anti-features (Bing, Cortana, App "Sugges…

I had a funny issue with Windows 10 a few years ago.

I tried to start cmd.exe and nothing happened. Tried a bunch of times more. Still nothing...

I was connected to a WiFi network that allowed ping to the entire Internet but not TCP connections. Then I switched to a WiFi network that allowed TCP connections to the Internet and 20+ cmd.exe instances started all at once.

I thought: "Wait, that can't be true", but it was reproducible.

This makes me wonder if launching programs takes longer on a slow internet connection.

I do not know if this still happens as I have only used Windows 10 on a handful of occasions since then.

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