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Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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Post by jamil7 »

morpheos137 wrote: post #3

Everything that is done with a platform dependent app can be done with a platform independent web app. I don't know what the best way out of this is but app stores were a step back. Your phone could have one app...a web browser and maybe a few utilities like a calculator, calendar, clock. Even these could be implemented as web apps running in the browser.

So you can't have any platform differentiation and at the same time lose any cohesive, platform specific UI with known conventions.

Instead of two major mobile vendors we end up with one or best case scenario two major browsers from one or two tech companies with enough resources to to build and maintain them.

Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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Post by rambambram »

chmike wrote: post #50
rambambram wrote: post #49

Thanks Apple, for "letting" me accept payment outside the App Store. Thanks for not watching the streets and not intervening when somebody tries to pay me. All jokes aside, the wording is wrong. Apple does not "let me". I do. And Apple indeed doesn't stop me. In one sentence Apple not only 'backs down', but presents itself as the one who 'lets you'. Well, thanks Apple. :')

If I have a web app allowing people to register and pay a recurring fee. Can Apple require that people using the iOS version app pay the subscription through the web store and then pay the Apple tax ?

To be honest, I have no clue. When they have physical control, they can block whatever they want. When you enter an agreement with them, they can legally force things. What they can not do - however - is act like they are the ones making the law, and saying stuff like they "let" you and me. They are not gods and their only prophet was a Cluster B disordered hippy who is now dead.

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Post by viktorcode »

smoldesu wrote: post #12

This is a step in the right direction, but it's not reform, nor is the kind of transparency that would have remedied issues like the Hey email scandal. In any case, it's an interesting departure from the "courageous" Apple that unabashedly removed the headphone jack and dismissed concern over on-device scanning as 'screeching'.

Actually, it is. Hey developers insisted on their right to tell customers where they can pay right from the app. And shortly they will have this right.

Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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Post by viktorcode »

croes wrote: post #20
ElFitz wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And apps that do not work without an outside-app purchase are still rejected as well. Apps such as Netflix & Spotify?

Sure, because the rules are the same for all. No wait, only for those that Apple does not necessarily want to have in its App Store.

Same rules for all developers; not same rules for all kinds of apps. Those may have different criteria.

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Post by shrikant »

chmike wrote: post #50
rambambram wrote: post #49

Thanks Apple, for "letting" me accept payment outside the App Store. Thanks for not watching the streets and not intervening when somebody tries to pay me. All jokes aside, the wording is wrong. Apple does not "let me". I do. And Apple indeed doesn't stop me. In one sentence Apple not only 'backs down', but presents itself as the one who 'lets you'. Well, thanks Apple. :')

If I have a web app allowing people to register and pay a recurring fee. Can Apple require that people using the iOS version app pay the subscription through the web store and then pay the Apple tax ?

No, this has never been the case. For example, you can buy a subscription to the Downdog app through thir website where it's SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than via their iOS app. After this, you can continue using their iOS app as a fully paid subscriber just fine.

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Post by ElFitz »

croes wrote: post #20
ElFitz wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And apps that do not work without an outside-app purchase are still rejected as well. Apps such as Netflix & Spotify?

Sure, because the rules are the same for all. No wait, only for those that Apple does not necessarily want to have in its App Store.

Hey then? Or any B2B SaaS’ app, for that matter?

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Post by taurath »

askvictor wrote: post #31
lolinder wrote: post #18

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28323688 Linking this here from the other thread, because the above comment cites the actual court documents, which clear up a lot of confusion I'm seeing on this thread. Apple's concession only applies to communications outside of the app using contact information obtained outside of the app . (Which, yes, was somehow disallowed before.) If your user signed up through the app? To…

I wonder if this will lead to apps not allowing the initial sign-up inside the app, thus potentially reducing usage of AppleID? Although it wouldn't surprise me if Apple were to forbid apps that don't allow in-app sign-up.

They do, unless you’re Netflix, or certain “business” apps which they change the definition of every few days.
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