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Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Post by kortilla »

azinman2 wrote: post #27
banana_giraffe wrote: post #11

One of the nice features added to yt-dlp recently: It integrates with sponskrub to call into the SponsorBlock database and with the right options will strip the sponsor segments from downloaded videos. Edit: Correct typo

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

Yes, they are just ads in an even worse form because it’s not clear when to skip to to pass over them.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#52

Post by input_sh »

lawl wrote: post #42
azinman2 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

> What really annoys me are the ones that interrupt the video.

Especially when those interruptions take two minutes. I don't mind them up to 30 seconds, but their length does get pretty ridiculous from time to time.

There's no medium that's gonna make watch two minutes ad without looking away or trying to skip it. You either sell it quickly or don't.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#53

Post by crazygringo »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #26

haven't paid attention to this since all the drama last year but again - what are all of you using youtube-dl for? Archiving your channel subs?

1) Videos disappear. Anything I think I might want to watch again in the future, I always download rather than bookmark. Not just YouTube but any video site (e.g. Reddit).

2) When Internet is flaky or doesn't exist. I've downloaded whole sets of tutorial videos for example to watch on a plane.

3) Stuff in 4K where my video player does a better job with hardware acceleration than my web browser does

I mean out of all the video I watch from the internet, 95% is streaming, but youtube-dl is for that other 5% that falls into the three categories above.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#54

Post by ithinkso »

azinman2 wrote: post #27
banana_giraffe wrote: post #11

One of the nice features added to yt-dlp recently: It integrates with sponskrub to call into the SponsorBlock database and with the right options will strip the sponsor segments from downloaded videos. Edit: Correct typo

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

'This video was sponsored by X' is ok.

And that is ho... 'HEY! Don't forget to check out X!' is not

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#55

Post by sralbert »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #26

haven't paid attention to this since all the drama last year but again - what are all of you using youtube-dl for? Archiving your channel subs?

I download Twitch vods and Youtube videos at home and copy them to my work PC to listen to during the day.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#56

Post by input_sh »

Macha wrote: post #46
TillE wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A neat tool, but YouTube is generally an abysmal source for music. That's partly deliberate (from record labels) and partly an inevitable consequence of recompression with different lossy formats. Unless something is completely unavailable elsewhere, you'll find far better audio quality from other (original) sources.

> Unless something is completely unavailable elsewhere I do run into this from time to time. Let's say I want the soundtrack to one of my favourite anime, from 2006. Some items from it are also on the source game soundtrack, so are available on iTunes. This is actually kind of rare for older anime which usually don't bother releasing in iTunes outside Japan, but being a game adaptation helps it here, I guess. Still,…

> So I could.... VPN to Japanese iTunes, thereby breaking the terms of service...

In my experience, you'd immediately enter "vacation mode", which is limited to two weeks in free version, but unlimited in premium. Spotify doesn't even complain when you switch countries in a couple of seconds. They're very lenient on enforcement, I've used it for like five years before Spotify actually became available in my country (though I couldn't pay for the premium with a card from a different country). Just log in via VPN once, then it works for two weeks.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#57

Post by iainmerrick »

TillE wrote: post #21
pluc wrote: post #9

There's this too: https://github.com/deepjyoti30/ytmdl

A neat tool, but YouTube is generally an abysmal source for music. That's partly deliberate (from record labels) and partly an inevitable consequence of recompression with different lossy formats. Unless something is completely unavailable elsewhere, you'll find far better audio quality from other (original) sources.

YouTube has a ton of obscure music that can’t be found on Spotify, plus things like old TV specials, theme tunes, outtakes and the like.

The quality is usually pretty bad, it’s true. But in many cases, this stuff is almost impossible to buy even if you wanted to, so YouTube is your only option.

YT is also fairly unpleasant to use, which is why a lot of people go for youtube-dl.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#58

Post by ajdude »

azinman2 wrote: post #27
banana_giraffe wrote: post #11

One of the nice features added to yt-dlp recently: It integrates with sponskrub to call into the SponsorBlock database and with the right options will strip the sponsor segments from downloaded videos. Edit: Correct typo

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

I always remember the HN comment[0] where developer explained which video was the breaking point that pushed them into creating this app, and it was kurzgesagt of all authors.

I am personally wondering if Yourube themselves are going to start implementing some thing like this sooner or later; after all, you are paying for an ad free experience on YouTube premium, just to watch all of those new videos become filled with in-video advertisements.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20781415

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#59

Post by nerdponx »

Ansil849 wrote: post #33
azinman2 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? Yes. Some of us don't like being assaulted with sales pitches everywhere we look.

Maybe these creators should post sponsor-free versions of their videos on Patreon?

If you are watching for free, and you're that annoyed by ads, then maybe you just feel entitled.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#60

Post by nerdponx »

nebula8804 wrote: post #32

Thanks for this post! First I am hearing about this fork! Darn...unfortunately still can't download Joe Rogan Spotify. Guess they haven't found a way around the widevine encryption...(Right now it seems like only a few podcasts are encrypted so other Spotify streams work)

It's always strange to think that there is encrypted data flowing through my software, through my operating system, into my hardware, that somehow I, the user, I am unable to access, but that the hardware can handle just fine.

How does this work?

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