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Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by eitland » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:03 PM UTC

eveningsteps wrote: post #17

Very bitter and to the point. I regularly wonder, do the people who want features like these installed — feedback form, "support chat" windows of various degrees of fakeness, subscription offer popups jumping in your face, and other absolutely baffling obstacles — really use their own web sites? Have they ever had to?

As long as there is an actual live person who can help me behind that chat I actually appreciate it.

I used the chat solution of my broadband provider just a couple of weeks ago and it was a really good experience.

Also, as a former support technician I far prefer text from both sides of the table.

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by croes » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:03 PM UTC

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #26

Honestly the site is way too performant to be realistic. All those buttons worked nearly instantly. I'm assuming you're missing the awaited tracking networking calls.

And ads should load later so if you try to click a link the whole page content jumps down when you click and you click the ad instead of the link.

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by thatjoeoverthr » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:03 PM UTC

krono wrote: post #27

eveningsteps wrote: post #17

Very bitter and to the point. I regularly wonder, do the people who want features like these installed — feedback form, "support chat" windows of various degrees of fakeness, subscription offer popups jumping in your face, and other absolutely baffling obstacles — really use their own web sites? Have they ever had to?

A website is a tool, a means to an end. The purpose of chat popups or feedback forms is to further a business goal, not to increase the website's usability.

Is the business goal to get you to click the back button?

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by untoxicness » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:04 PM UTC

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #2

I had to turn ublock off to keep going after the first click, which is in fact an accurate depiction of the web experience.

Indeed. We can only hope this is an intentional self-referential joke.

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by pjerem » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:05 PM UTC

aspectmin wrote: post #44

This... I absolutely Abhor what the web has become. Somehow, we need a new web (maybe out of the blockchain related work/distributed internet endeavors?) The current state is sooo bad.

Check Gemini network. Far from being the network that will replace the web (and that’s not even a goal), it’s really… interesting.

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by coffeecat » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:06 PM UTC

Where's the auto-playing video that you can't get rid of, and which jumps into the sidebar and moves down along with you when you try to scroll past it?

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:06 PM UTC

throwawayswede wrote: post #39

jandrese wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Money. The web was great until someone said "I love this, but how do we make money with it?"

Not really imo. It may make sense in the short term, but in the long term these websites are losing customers, ie money. Online advertising is a failed business model. All those companies that started like this and succeeded quickly realized this and are constantly trying to pivot or have done so already. I'd say the main reason for the crap web we have nowadays is: lazy people trying to get rich quick. There's nothi…

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Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by gonehome » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:08 PM UTC

croes wrote: post #52

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #26

Honestly the site is way too performant to be realistic. All those buttons worked nearly instantly. I'm assuming you're missing the awaited tracking networking calls.

And ads should load later so if you try to click a link the whole page content jumps down when you click and you click the ad instead of the link.

Maybe you can make it so the ad always loads under the cursor?

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by tommica » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:08 PM UTC

In a completely different direction - I've been getting a bit into cooking lately, and found a website called https://based.cooking and aside of the silly name, the content is great - just recipes and nothing else! Wish there was a search engine that was able to give sites like that as result, and not the current SEO junk that is being made, although they have good recipes hidden in their walls of text

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by croes » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:08 PM UTC

Web development and it's tools are often a top topic on HN. Better tools, new languages, new frameworks, improved frameworks etc. So now someone tell me why we get such sites? Why should I care about developers if they don't seem to care about me? And that's only the design and UX not to mention the whole tracking and spying.