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America’s losing battle against diabetes

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Re: America’s losing battle against diabetes

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Easiest solution to diabetes: Sugar tax. Easiest solution to climate change: Carbon tax. If we havn't used these solutions, someone high up in the food chain is placing a greater emphasis on profits from the status quo instead of the wellbeing of the population.

Good luck explaining to people that Apple Juice has a sugar tax applied to it now even though the only ingredient listed is “apples.”

And, yes, it’s just as bad for you as soda.

Don’t forget that we'll be needing a flour tax too…

Re: America’s losing battle against diabetes

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Easiest solution to diabetes: Sugar tax. Easiest solution to climate change: Carbon tax. If we havn't used these solutions, someone high up in the food chain is placing a greater emphasis on profits from the status quo instead of the wellbeing of the population.

So, a giant corporation outsources their production to china, pays zero carbon tax, and still pollutes the same planet, but Johnny average cannot heat his house and drive his car, because he cannot afford it anymore?

One would assume that you tax carbon across the entire value chain for any product that's to be sold within your borders.

Insofar as the atmosphere doesn't confine itself to political boundaries, it certainly seems to me like that would be the sensible way to attempt such a thing. Why faff around?

Companies that don't want to pay this tax would, of course, be free to simply not sell their products in the USA. But I doubt that every participant in, e.g., China's consumer product manufacturing industry would be able to stomach such a course of action.

It would be similar for a hypothetical sugar tax. Which, of course, the US already has something like that, but of course it's currently being used to favor domestic sugar production over international sugar production, so it's not applied consistently to all sugar. But still, I think we can see from that that it's not a question of practicalities. If we can do it for the sake of economic protectionism, then I'm sure it would also work when the motivation is to mold people's diets.

(In case I need to put a finer point on it, I'm speaking here about the feasibility of actually implementing an excise tax policy; I'll refrain from speculating about its ability to achieve its stated goals.)

Long story short, I think that this sort of thing is probably less a question of practicalities than it is a question of political will. If you have political reasons to like this idea, it's very easy to come up with motivated reasoning for why it would be something approaching a panacea. If you have political reasons to dislike it, it's very easy to come up with motivated reasoning for why it could never work.

Re: America’s losing battle against diabetes

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The health care model in the US doesn't really help much on the matter, but this isn't a battle against diabetes, diabetes is just the result of an overweight population with bad dietary habits. There is the inherited kind, and then there is the "earned" kind. One is genetically unavoidable, the other is mostly preventable. It is not even the food, or fats, or carbs, or sugars, it's too many calories over extended ti…

There's an inherited kind, an earned kind, and a "whoops, diabetes!" kind.

My sister spent the first 36 years of her life without diabetes or symptoms of diabetes. 5'3", 130 pounds. Then she had her second child, and whatever happened during that time eradicated her ability to deal with sugar. She had been perfectly healthy aside from an ovarian cyst which was removed before she was pregnant with the second child.

So now she's a type 1 diabetic, complete with a blood glucose monitor and an insulin pump.

Re: America’s losing battle against diabetes

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Easiest solution to diabetes: Sugar tax. Easiest solution to climate change: Carbon tax. If we havn't used these solutions, someone high up in the food chain is placing a greater emphasis on profits from the status quo instead of the wellbeing of the population.

Sugar does not cause diabetes.

Too much sugar causes high insulin. Prolonged high insulin causes insulin resistance. Insulin resistance causes diabetes.

Re: America’s losing battle against diabetes

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I strongly believe that fasting is one of the best ways to combat obesity, diabetes, cancer, high blood pressure, and more. The scientific literature is certainly accumulating tremendous evidence supporting this hypothesis [1]. Here is one of my favorite videos on the subject [2], a talk by Dr Pradip Jamnadas who is one of the top cardiologists in Florida. There is no industry that profits on you being healthier thro…

I took up IF a while back, and I wish my adherance was better but I have noticed once you get into the groove fasting days are fantastic, I do feel "lighter" and I have also realized that most of what I thought was "hunger" is "boredom" and most of my cravings are quite easily handled.

Really we should start teaching people the value of IF.

Re: America’s losing battle against diabetes

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Tax sugar and give it back as a UBI. That alleviates the regressive tax concern. But I suspect that that's not the real reason you're against it. If your real concern is the expansion of the state, then implement a sugar tax and reduce other taxes. Whatever your concern, a sugar and carbon tax are great ideas (due to incentive alignment) and can be made to work.

Exactly. The tax externalities and dividend system is such an underappreciated idea. Sugar, carbon, and land are things that we move quickly to implement and bring it to more and more externalities.

What do you mean by "dividend" in this context?

Re: America’s losing battle against diabetes

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Alternate title: After a many years of improvement, there was one bad year for diabetics during a pandemic.

Which imaginary years were those? The years where a proliferation of marginal drug improvements (due to expiring patents) were replaced by a cure? Where access to diagnostic equipment and preventative care wasn't severely limited by for-profit healthcare companies? I'd like to know more!!!

Re: America’s losing battle against diabetes

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Stop taxing everything. Tax is not the solution for everything. The people buying soda are generally the poor or middle class. All this does it take more money from those who need it the most. What we need to do is regulate how much sugar you can put into foods. But we can't do that. We have to prop up the corn industry with subsidies. Sugar and HFCS is in literally everything. By adding a sugar tax you're basically…

> What we need to do is regulate how much sugar you can put into foods. How about we first find out what actually causes diabetes. Not what correlates with it, but what really causes it. And then how we can stop that. You can tax or forbid sugar all you want, but is it gonna stop diabetes? Will people who eat tons of other "empty carbs" really not get diabetes? I'm not so sure. Instead of restricting peoples lifes, I…

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Re: America’s losing battle against diabetes

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Easiest solution to diabetes: Sugar tax. Easiest solution to climate change: Carbon tax. If we havn't used these solutions, someone high up in the food chain is placing a greater emphasis on profits from the status quo instead of the wellbeing of the population.

Everyone talks about sugar. But the real problem is food culture (or the lack of). American, and now many European diets now consist of either fast food, oven-ready food or fried food. I recently went shopping and had a look at the "healthy" aisle. I could only find supposedly healthy food consisting of extremely savory dishes -carbonara, paella, etc. This is no way to eat healthy In many western countries, no one is…

Seasoning isn't the problem... Turmeric and cumin added to your pulses aren't going to give you metabolic diseases...
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