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Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by siphr »

skrebbel wrote: post #12
siphr wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. No Idea where this came from. To be honest the effort put into this could've just contributed to an existing open source framework for improvement.

You sound like a PHP coder telling DHH to stop doing Rails 3 and get working on some existing open source framework instead. I know that HN is somewhat ignorant of the PHP community due to the large set of idiots there and the so not cool factor, but you're taking this to the extreme. Symfony is probably one of the most decent and most widely used pieces of open source PHP out there.

I love it how I get marked down for a clean post with an opinion and you get a pass by declaring people idiots for just expressing their opinion. The way I see it the idiots seem to be on your side. Just learn to express your side of things without getting irritated. I am open to correction but insults I'd piss on.

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by siphr »

siphr wrote: post #6
mrspeaker wrote: post #4

I'd never heard of Symfony before. Can someone point to some tech details about the framework? The site does a lot of explaining what a framework is, and some general philosophies - but not what this particular framework is.

Same here. No Idea where this came from. To be honest the effort put into this could've just contributed to an existing open source framework for improvement.

I stand corrected then.

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by eropple »

skrebbel wrote: post #12
siphr wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. No Idea where this came from. To be honest the effort put into this could've just contributed to an existing open source framework for improvement.

You sound like a PHP coder telling DHH to stop doing Rails 3 and get working on some existing open source framework instead. I know that HN is somewhat ignorant of the PHP community due to the large set of idiots there and the so not cool factor, but you're taking this to the extreme. Symfony is probably one of the most decent and most widely used pieces of open source PHP out there.

Sadly, Symfony/Symfony2 are not widely used enough. :/

(This may be a bit flippant, but seriously--there's not really a good reason to be using stuff like CakePHP, etc. in 2011.)

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by joverholt »

eropple wrote: post #53
skrebbel wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You sound like a PHP coder telling DHH to stop doing Rails 3 and get working on some existing open source framework instead. I know that HN is somewhat ignorant of the PHP community due to the large set of idiots there and the so not cool factor, but you're taking this to the extreme. Symfony is probably one of the most decent and most widely used pieces of open source PHP out there.

Sadly, Symfony/Symfony2 are not widely used enough . :/ (This may be a bit flippant, but seriously--there's not really a good reason to be using stuff like CakePHP, etc. in 2011.)

I may be in the process of updating a very neglected cakephp site. When I created the site, I had heard of Symfony but went with cakephp. I've not followed either framework for well over a year, so could you please give your reasons for Symfony and against cakephp?

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by celalo »

cruiseControl wrote: post #44
celalo wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was meaning "Symfony is in a league different from the one that Yii is in" I value Symfony so much because you can create all model classes, crud forms etc from command line (as much as you want as you update your schema) just based on specifications from a easy to manage yml file. Also with ORM behaviors, you are in control of everything about your model.

In that case I wonder what makes you compare the two frameworks and what you actually think the two are in such a separate league. You keep talking about Symfony without actually comparing it with Yii as your initial statement made me think you would. :)

Sorry about misleading, when I talk about symfony and tell about its features, I tried to pick superior parts where Yii lacks

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by kayoone »

have been using Symfony since 2007. Today it powers the backend and website of my gaming startup and we still love it very much. Project is still SF 1.4 though, would love to upgrade to 2.0 but that would be too much work right now as 2.0 changes alot of basic principles.

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by boringpun »

eropple wrote: post #49
corry wrote: post #33

Can someone comment on Symfony vs. CodeIgniter? I've done a few projects in CI - any big compelling reason to switch to Symfony for the next one?

CodeIgniter is a fundamentally PHP4 system that is, today, wedged into more modern PHP5.3 programming practices. Personally, I can't see a good reason to use CI today (and I say that as someone who has used it extensively in the past--my capstone project at school was based on it!). If you want something CI-esque, you're better off looking at Kohana...but Kohana seems to give short shrift to certain important aspects…

I disagree with your view of CodeIgniter. It's one of the best documented frameworks out there; it's quick to learn; and it doesn't require a lot of typing/coding. It's best suited for smaller projects, I would say, but for those projects it rocks.

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by ericfrenkiel »

Congratulations to Fabien and the Sensio team! Fabien is an amazing evangelist for the framework, and I've had the good fortune to attend Fabien's talks on multiple occasions. I've used Symfony since 2007 and it's clear the framework has staying power and significant adoption with each new year. Congrats again!

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by sciurus »

eurohacker wrote: post #48
skrebbel wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Symfony is a rather popular PHP framework; it is commonly regarded in the PHP community as one of the higher-quality frameworks (amidst many half-baked frameworks that cause serious problems once your use case moves past the blog tutorial). In terms of functionality, it's basically for PHP what Rails is for Ruby, but unlike many other PHP frameworks, it's been designed with the platform in mind rather than trying to…

are you saying Symphony is better than market leaders Zend and Cakephp and becoming more popular these days , isnt it so that its much easier to find a Zend plugins/libraries or Cakephp ready-made plugin/library than to find Symphony code snippets

I'm not sure that CakePHP is any more a market leader than Symfony.

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by Mandar »

mweibel wrote: post #16
bergie wrote: post #3

I'm currently in process of building compatibility layers from our two old PHP frameworks (MidCOM and Midgard MVC) to Symfony, and have been very pleasantly surprised with both the code quality and the responsiveness of the community. As part of this work I will also write new Symfony2 bundles for whatever functiolity our old frameworks had a SF2 misses. The first one is the ability to run Symfony2 apps under AppServ…

Since PHP 5.4 there's a web server built-in: http://php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.webserver.php Maybe you could rely on that, instead of aip :)

From your very link: "This web server is designed for developmental purposes only, and should not be used in production."
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