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Re: Mosh: The Mobile Shell

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Post by TechBro8615 » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 4:03 AM UTC

shp0ngle wrote: post #4

Note that Mosh has not had release for 4 years, even when pull requests are accepted on github, and the team lead says "we are too busy/burned out". https://github.com/mobile-shell/mosh/issues/1115

That’s too bad. As a digital nomad, I wish that they would do more unpaid work for me so that I could use their software to perform more efficiently at my six figure job while riding the train to my next Airbnb.

Re: Mosh: The Mobile Shell

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Post by diekhans » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 4:11 AM UTC

keithwinstein wrote: post #37

Mosh original author here -- fun to see us back here yet again. Happy to answer any questions.

All I can say is THANK YOU!!! I use mosh 10+ hours a day. Maybe it needs a bit of help, but it is in my top 10 of "how did I accomplish anything with out mosh.

Re: Mosh: The Mobile Shell

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Post by arthurcolle » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 4:12 AM UTC

keithwinstein wrote: post #43

shp0ngle wrote: post #4

Note that Mosh has not had release for 4 years, even when pull requests are accepted on github, and the team lead says "we are too busy/burned out". https://github.com/mobile-shell/mosh/issues/1115

I think the truth is that we don't feel like we need a release. We've never had a security hole, our track record speaks for itself, and I wouldn't really want us to rush anything and blow that. There are some features that it would be really nice to have in a release (like 24-bit color support, and working around a recent MacOS clock bug), but I handed over the maintainership to somebody else about six years ago and…

Great response - not everything needs to be updated and upgraded every few days. Stability should be praised, not used as evidence of indolence.

Re: Mosh: The Mobile Shell

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Post by arthurcolle » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 4:18 AM UTC

diekhans wrote: post #52

keithwinstein wrote: post #37

Mosh original author here -- fun to see us back here yet again. Happy to answer any questions.

All I can say is THANK YOU!!! I use mosh 10+ hours a day. Maybe it needs a bit of help, but it is in my top 10 of "how did I accomplish anything with out mosh.

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Re: Mosh: The Mobile Shell

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Post by nmstoker » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 4:26 AM UTC

keithwinstein wrote: post #37

Mosh original author here -- fun to see us back here yet again. Happy to answer any questions.

It looks like there's no sponsorship for Mosh. Had this been considered?

Not saying money would solve the challenges the maintainer faces but there might be things it eases. With a tool this popular I expect it wouldn't struggle to raise a fair bit.

Re: Mosh: The Mobile Shell

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Post by yoavm » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 4:44 AM UTC

Love mosh, back when the connection was bad I had it aliased to ssh. Somewhat relevant: if you actually a need to take your shell mobile, check out my tmux plugin that allows you to quickly transfer your tmux session to your phone without any app, using websockets and a QR code: https://github.com/bjesus/muxile

Re: Mosh: The Mobile Shell

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Post by cpach » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 4:51 AM UTC

keithwinstein wrote: post #37

Mosh original author here -- fun to see us back here yet again. Happy to answer any questions.

Thank you for writing mosh. It’s an awesome tool, especially when using the laptop on a train.

Re: Mosh: The Mobile Shell

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Post by brunoqc » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 5:00 AM UTC

jacob019 wrote: post #25

I typically use ssh over wireguard and tmux if I need persistent sessions. Wireguard takes care of the unstable remote link and changing IPs. I can suspend my laptop on one connection, wake it up later on another and still have an active session. I use openssh via Termux for the client on Android or whatever terminal emulator on the laptop. Can mosh offer me anything?

> Wireguard takes care of the unstable remote link and changing IPs.

Isn't that the point of mosh?

"Remote terminal application that allows roaming, supports intermittent connectivity, and provides intelligent local echo and line editing of user keystrokes."

Re: Mosh: The Mobile Shell

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Post by Hnrobert42 » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

keithwinstein wrote: post #43

shp0ngle wrote: post #4

Note that Mosh has not had release for 4 years, even when pull requests are accepted on github, and the team lead says "we are too busy/burned out". https://github.com/mobile-shell/mosh/issues/1115

I think the truth is that we don't feel like we need a release. We've never had a security hole, our track record speaks for itself, and I wouldn't really want us to rush anything and blow that. There are some features that it would be really nice to have in a release (like 24-bit color support, and working around a recent MacOS clock bug), but I handed over the maintainership to somebody else about six years ago and…

I don’t use mosh myself as I thought the project had been abandoned, but I know several folks that love it. Just want to thank you on their behalf.

Also, I appreciate knowing you all are watching PRs and bug reports even if you don’t see the need to take action. Makes me feel the project is just dormant and not abandoned. If you care about continued use and adoption, you might consider posting an update to the website similar to this post you made here. If you aren’t worried about adoption, then no problem and thanks again for your effort.

Re: Mosh: The Mobile Shell

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Post by tyingq » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 5:04 AM UTC

emersonrsantos wrote: post #7

This mimics a lot how 3270 devices work, by transmitting chunks instead of individual keystrokes. The IBM 3270 technology dates from 1970!

Sort of. Local echo and "smart current line editing" aren't quite the same as block mode, forms, etc. To me, a html form is closer to what 3270 is.