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It's very similar when your ISP choices are Comcast and AT&T or insert other horrible ISP. If they don't do an about face on this I'm pretty much done with iPhone forever. Yes Google loves my location/search data, but what are my options? It's so frustrating.
PinePhone? https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/ I'm frustrated, too.
A Message to Our Customers (2016)
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Re: A Message to Our Customers (2016)
#52What is the functional difference between the government demanding Apple add code to break device encryption, and the government demanding Apple add signatures that extend their on-device scanning beyond its intended scope of CSAM? Apple seems to get a lot of credit for opposing the former, but gets mocked when they say they would oppose the latter. But as far as I can tell, the legal argument is exactly the same for…
search without reasonable cause is a violation of the 4th amendment and due process
Re: A Message to Our Customers (2016)
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's very similar when your ISP choices are Comcast and AT&T or insert other horrible ISP. If they don't do an about face on this I'm pretty much done with iPhone forever. Yes Google loves my location/search data, but what are my options? It's so frustrating.
Google has been scanning everything in your account for kiddie porn for the past decade. >a man [was] arrested on child pornography charges, after Google tipped off authorities about illegal images found in the Houston suspect's Gmail account https://techcrunch.com/2014/08/06/why-the-gmail-scan-that-le... In the case of a false positive, that information lives on Google's server where it can be subpoenaed and misused…
> With Apple's system, a single false positive would never even leave the device.
"Apple's system" may change overnight and signal every single match, however. They likely will, if they ever start believing that false positives are de facto impossible.
Re: A Message to Our Customers (2016)
#54What are the best options for a Linux laptop these days? I switched back from a Dell XPS 13 9350 running Ubuntu to a Macbook Air M1 quite recently.
Re: A Message to Our Customers (2016)
#55I'll never buy anything from Apple again. Apple was to me the walled but good-willed garden, caring about their profits by respecting their customers and taking a stance against widespread anti-democratic tendencies. I own an iWatch, two iPhones and two MacBook Pros (one privately owned, one from my current employer). The selling points of apple to me were to provide excellent hardware combined with excellent softwar…
There are already cases linked in other comments where the same hash dataset has had valid hits, via Google-stored photos, iirc.
All your posturing is just that: posturing. As with so many things they offer via iCloud, Apple does offer non-cloud solutions for most things their devices do, and in such scenarios the data is not subjected to the things people often object to (hash scanning in this case, unencrypted iOS backups, etc etc).
As has been pointed out elsewhere this is not about breaking encryption or arbitrarily browsing through all your dick pics or whatever. It’s a compromise to be able to say that Apple is doing something with a reasonable expectation of effectiveness to combat child abuse materials, without needing to just give whichever prick inhabits the FBI directors chair an easy way to view everything you store in iCloud.
And as I said if you’re not happy with that compromise you can turn off iCloud photos, the same as you can turn off iCloud backups.
So, you can believe all you want about what criminals will or won’t do or about how smart they are or are not, and even about how much influence you have over other peoples buying decisions. Just remember though, believing something doesn’t necessarily mean you’re right.
Re: A Message to Our Customers (2016)
#56I'll never buy anything from Apple again. Apple was to me the walled but good-willed garden, caring about their profits by respecting their customers and taking a stance against widespread anti-democratic tendencies. I own an iWatch, two iPhones and two MacBook Pros (one privately owned, one from my current employer). The selling points of apple to me were to provide excellent hardware combined with excellent softwar…
Apple knew a supplier was using child labor but took 3 years to fully cut ties[1].
> taking a stance against widespread anti-democratic tendencies.
"While US lawmakers have proposed legislation aimed on curbing American companies' ability to use forced Uyghur labor, Apple sought to weaken the bill, The New York Times reported last month."[1]
> caring about their profits by respecting their customers
"Cook argued that people choose iOS specifically so they won’t have to make risky decisions with sensitive data."[2]
But also,
"Apple takes flak for disputing iOS security"[3]
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Apple has always been ripe with hypocrisy, It's astonishing to see people claiming the latest incident to be like the only blemish on its record.
If a lone developer from some village releases a software and makes a claim that its secure we'd rush to ask for source code, 3rd party security audit and what not; But if Apple asks for our trust because it's Apple, Why not the hardware is shiny right?
When did the premise for security shift from 'zero trust' to 'Apps open fast, So I'm fine with it'?
[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-knowingly-used-child-l...
[2] https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/22/22448139/tim-cook-epic-fo...
[3] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/apple...
Re: A Message to Our Customers (2016)
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google has been scanning everything in your account for kiddie porn for the past decade. >a man [was] arrested on child pornography charges, after Google tipped off authorities about illegal images found in the Houston suspect's Gmail account https://techcrunch.com/2014/08/06/why-the-gmail-scan-that-le... In the case of a false positive, that information lives on Google's server where it can be subpoenaed and misused…
At least Google's policy with Gmail has always been clear: we give you free email, you allow us to mine your data. Same with Android and their other free services, more or less. Apple, on the other hand, is doing a complete about-face. People may have bought into iCloud (and the ecosystem, in general) due to Apple's stance on privacy, and now this? > With Apple's system, a single false positive would never even leave…
Apple is adding a much more private way to scan your iCloud photos only.
"Google's system" allows your data to be misused by anyone who can get a warrant.