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TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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I'm just getting tired of seeing SHOCKED faces everywhere. Clearly, exaggerated faces lead to video views but I'm growing so averse to seeing it.

That’s YouTube, not TikTok. You don’t even click on videos on TikTok.

Yeah, I'm just saying in-general. You see plenty of exaggerated expressions in tiktok videos as well.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

#52

Pro TikTok take. It's easier and friendlier to consume. The algorithm is good at tailoring interests. But, it's more like TV than FB.

There is a time and place for everything. Connecting with all your friends and relatives (over Facebook) was a novelty but is cooling down. We are rather going back to the "celebrities model", admiring influencers on better suited platforms for asynchronous (fan>star, rather than friendfriend) interactions: YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok.

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#53

The march away from language continues. Facial expressions may be a rich form of communication but the kinds of ideas you can communicate with them are severely restricted. Literacy was hard won and now it seems like we're letting it go. Then again, maybe I'm just too old to understand.

If Facebook was the end game for language then 8-O :-) ;-D

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TikTok is probably the best social media app, the only problem is the terrible search function. It doesn't have the sorting and filters that youtube does, fixing this one thing would make it so much more useful to me...

What makes it good other than being addictive? If social media is defined by "sharing ideas with other people" is TikTok even social media? Or is it more like Netflix?

Tiktoks video editor is by far the best phone based video editor I’ve ever used.

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I don't use it, but it looks so painful to me. I couldn't imagine having to 'stage' my life so frequently for the temporary enjoyment of people I do and don't know.

So...don't post? Every platform has (read: is primarily ) lurkers.

Lurking doesn't seem all that appealing to me either.

I just checked the tiktok homepage and the top two videos I saw were of a woman failing a sobriety test and a guy scaring a drive-through woman with a blow horn.

I realize this isn't the content you might see once your algo is calculated, but it's obviously popular stuff on the platform and it just doesn't seem like very positive content for me.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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The march away from language continues. Facial expressions may be a rich form of communication but the kinds of ideas you can communicate with them are severely restricted. Literacy was hard won and now it seems like we're letting it go. Then again, maybe I'm just too old to understand.

Is sculpting, or painting, a step in the march away from language, too? Is dancing? What about videos of people dancing is going to hurt literacy. People will consume Apps instead of TV, neither are literature, but one you can participate in. You may be too old to let yourself like new things. Where's the childlike wonder? I don't use The Tik toks either, but let me not lose mine.

Sculpting, painting, dancing etc is creation. Watching other people do it is not.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

#57

Pro TikTok take. It's easier and friendlier to consume. The algorithm is good at tailoring interests. But, it's more like TV than FB.

It’s also much more positive. If I spend 20 minutes on TikTok I usually laugh and smile a few times. And regularly I’m impressed at human creativity. 20 minutes on Instagram or Facebook is usually either boring or leaves me comparing myself to others. 20 minutes on YouTube and I feel like I’ve watched 10 minutes of ads and 10 minutes of fluff. 20 minutes on Reddit and I hate the world.

Spending 20 minutes in any of those apps is 20 minutes you didn't do something productive. None of them are good for you.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

> The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and protectionist.

I don't think the only question is "who wins at having the most popular social network." The more concerning one is of exerting political influence through manipulative amplification/suppression (which is something the PRC has a lot of experience with). That could be both highly effective and extremely subtle and difficult to detect (e.g. activating one political tendency with relatively more call to action videos, while distracting its opposition with relatively more cat videos and relatively fewer calls to action).

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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I'm really curious if China will go after bytedance next in its crackdown. My guess would be no. Alibaba, Tencent, DiDi, Meituan all are either local champions that have no competitive advantage overseas - and thus does not help China's growth. But TikTok actually represents that China might have a competitive advantage in deep learning algos that takes massive amount of data - therefore it would be spare from crackd…

Few global powers have their home made social networks spread in other countries, let alone in another global power. There’s a reason why Russia and China don’t let American social networks operate in their countries. They’ll protect TikTok, it’s valuable or will be.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

#60

The march away from language continues. Facial expressions may be a rich form of communication but the kinds of ideas you can communicate with them are severely restricted. Literacy was hard won and now it seems like we're letting it go. Then again, maybe I'm just too old to understand.

In a way, language has always been the comprise.

We only came up with words and writing to cover the gaps with facial expressions and motions.

Truly, from the dawn of writing we’ve been dealing with the faults of expressing ourselves via words. The issues have been worth it however, because communicating complicated ideas across time and space was impossible otherwise.

Now, video has progressed to the point where it is trivial to use as a storage medium of ideas. We are still in the very early days of “moving pictures,” and with any technology, the first iterations often look like toys. In the far future, we may look back at this very moment as the start of a surge of _better_ communication across all boundaries; time, space, country of origin, species perhaps?

This is all baseless speculation of course, but it’s fun to speculate.

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