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Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

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Re: Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

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No one gets a job because of how long they’ve been alive or how frustrated they are. I suggest changing your attitude and I’d also suggest avoiding rants about the government and media, as well as spreading misinformation about “the cough” and NYC during your job search.

This is actually part of the problem. Did you conveniently ignore that they mentioned years of experience in particular technologies?

Absolutely. YOE != value or skill.

Re: Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

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I am an unemployed programmer. I am 50 years old. I have 15 years of C#, 15 years of sql server, two years of golang, two years of node.js, vue.js, svelte, css, html, postgress, rabbitmq, etc etc etc.... My skills list is about 10 times this short list I just threw up. They tell me there is a skills and labor shortage in tech. That's complete bullshit I am UNEMPLOYED for a year. I don't believe one dam word the gover…

FYI the contact info (URL) in your HN account is 404ing...

Re: Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

#53
The talk about ageism reminded me of picking up Filipino in-laws at Heathrow airport a few years ago. My brother in law commented it was nice to see the airport employing some older people. In Philippines it used to be pretty normal to get rid of service sector workers at 30. The country has changed the law recently to mitigate this.

Re: Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

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I am an unemployed programmer. I am 50 years old. I have 15 years of C#, 15 years of sql server, two years of golang, two years of node.js, vue.js, svelte, css, html, postgress, rabbitmq, etc etc etc.... My skills list is about 10 times this short list I just threw up. They tell me there is a skills and labor shortage in tech. That's complete bullshit I am UNEMPLOYED for a year. I don't believe one dam word the gover…

It stretches credulity that you have that many skills and still unemployed. Employers are hiring just about anyone in tech these days. Where are you located? You can kvetch about the media all you want, but the job market is the best it has ever been, and unlikely to get any better. Sorry to be harsh here, but if you can't find a job in this market, you ought to reconsider your professional choices.

> It stretches credulity that you [...]

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> You can kvetch about the media all you want [...]

Why engage with a primary source when you can have your worldview spoonfed to you by a thinly-veiled Pharma ad masquerading as news?

Yeah, let's keep kvetching.

Re: Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

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I literally can't find a job in any kind of engineering. Applied for dozens of cleaning and production positions and couldn't get a job. You know what the media has become? A cesspool of bullshit unworthy of any trust. No wonder so many people mistrust actual experts, it's hard to even tell who they are.

Really sorry to hear that. My personal experience, of hiring software engineers in London, aligns with this article. We have seen a drop in supply this year. If you are looking in the South of England I would recommend finding a specialist tech recruitment agency.

Supply in London is fine, companies just need to raise their salaries tbh.

I personally moved companies during covid and got a more flexible role and a 90% increase.

Recruiters are going nuts on LinkedIn atm for anyone with skills and the salaries are rising from there.

Re: Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

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I'm sorry to hear that but keep in mind the job market is very different from one location to another and from one sector to another. The BBC is talking about truck drivers in the UK and it is hardly a surprise: UK used to rely heavily on eastern Europe workers in that area, and they vote (Brexit) to prevent exactly that. They got what they asked for. If anything, we can complain that the BBC article title is too gen…

The BBC has for a long long time been more sensitive to the concerns of employers and investors rather than employees or the unemployed. This has mostly been as a result of aping the trends followed by the rest of the private media in the UK since the 1970s. They already had a business section and even rolled out a new capital section a few years ago. No word yet on when theyll get a section dedicated to worker news.

Why wouldn't they? Workers are generally not allowed to talk about specifics of work to media.

Re: Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

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I am an unemployed programmer. I am 50 years old. I have 15 years of C#, 15 years of sql server, two years of golang, two years of node.js, vue.js, svelte, css, html, postgress, rabbitmq, etc etc etc.... My skills list is about 10 times this short list I just threw up. They tell me there is a skills and labor shortage in tech. That's complete bullshit I am UNEMPLOYED for a year. I don't believe one dam word the gover…

No, they are not “boarding up New York City”, but conservative trolls do seem to be invading this post, maybe we should board the post up instead.

Re: Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

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It will stop, at some point. IT is still growing but we're reaching the point where IT workers are a decent percentage of all workers, so they are starting to become representative of the population at large. Larger and larger cohorts of IT workers are aging and recent graduates will stop being enough even for the top companies. Also, salaries are lower in general but I get the impression Europe is better in this reg…

Salaries may be lower but work/life balance seems much higher in Europe.

> work/life balance seems much higher

That doesn't sound too great. You probably mean better.

Re: Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

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Might also be an attitude problem on your side. If you're serious about getting a job, consider coaching. This "nobody is hiring, everything sucks, and I'm the victim here" narrative isn't really helping you. Also, bringing up stuff like "lies about the cough" (which I assume is OP talking about COVID) absolutely undermines your credibility as an individual capable of critical thinking, which is necessary for softwar…

It’s true though, the media has massively distorted the truth about covid over and over since the beginning. For the most recent egregious example, see this exchange: https://mobile.twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/142122951874...

People started noticing during covid but it's been going on for a very long time. I think it's awesome to see so many people realize this now though. We need that to happen.

Re: Employee shortages: Where have all the workers gone?

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I am an unemployed programmer. I am 50 years old. I have 15 years of C#, 15 years of sql server, two years of golang, two years of node.js, vue.js, svelte, css, html, postgress, rabbitmq, etc etc etc.... My skills list is about 10 times this short list I just threw up. They tell me there is a skills and labor shortage in tech. That's complete bullshit I am UNEMPLOYED for a year. I don't believe one dam word the gover…

Might also be an attitude problem on your side. If you're serious about getting a job, consider coaching. This "nobody is hiring, everything sucks, and I'm the victim here" narrative isn't really helping you. Also, bringing up stuff like "lies about the cough" (which I assume is OP talking about COVID) absolutely undermines your credibility as an individual capable of critical thinking, which is necessary for softwar…

This guy wouldn’t make it past a first phone screen with that attitude thank goodness.
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