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Smart Phone, Dumb Terminal

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Re: Smart Phone, Dumb Terminal

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I got a GPD Micro PC a couple months ago and I'm in love. It's a magical size - exactly small enough to slip into a back pocket like a chunky phone, and exactly large enough that it's actually practical to use desktop software on it. It's ergonomically first-rate - I've done CAD work on it. And it's durable too - I've dropped it several times already and it's barely even scratched. It's also unlocked a class of activ…

Quick question, what about the Cosmo didn’t work that worked on the GPD Micro? Was the keyboard problematic on the Cosmo?

There were lots and lots of problems with the Cosmo as a phone, build quality first and foremost, but I'll focus on the screen/keyboard combo since that's the point of comparison with the GPD.

First, the keyboard: The Cosmo keyboard is not designed for thumb typing. You can do it, but it's a bit awkward. The phone is not comfortable to hold in this configuration - it's thin, wide, top heavy, and the hinge has sharp edges. The generous key travel also works against you when thumb typing. It seems that you are basically always meant to put the phone on a flat surface and touch-type - but it's not very good at that either. It has no feet on the (slightly curved!) bottom surface, and while the rear hinge is meant to act as a kind of kickstand, the design means that force of typing transfers to the screen, causing it to wobble with every keystroke. The keys themselves are as nice as is possible in that size, but touch-typing at a table while on the go is a very narrow use case. The device feels delicate and fragile. Also - while this isn't a completely fair comparison as I've only had the GPD for two months - after a year the keyboard began missing keystrokes (and this was a replacement keyboard, since the one it came with did that from day 1).

Next the screen - a super-high aspect ratio smartphone screen turned landscape is actually really annoying. You have almost no vertical real estate, whereas most phone apps assume that the vertical axis is where all the real estate is and consequently put menu bars at the top and the bottom, eroding it further. There's very little gap between the touchscreen and the keyboard, so accidental touches are common. Switching between touchscreen and keyboard interaction is even more annoying that switching between mouse and keyboard on a desktop, either because you have to transfer the weight of the device to one hand if you're holding it, or if it's on a table because you must gently prod at the screen without tipping the thing over, or brace the screen from behind. Also the screen only opens to one very wide angle (cheerfully described by Planet as "the optimum angle"). There's volume buttons, but they're awkwardly on the back of the screen, which would make sense if they worked when the device is closed, which they DON'T.

Now, the GPD Micro PC: no touchscreen, which is actually great because all interactions that change the state of the device require definite action and make a physical "click" - you don't have to worry about accidentally brushing it the wrong way. This actually takes a lot of cognitive load off. It's comfortable to hold in two hands for thumb typing (but also has rubber feet so you can set it down). The touchpad is accessible with a fractional movement of the thumb, so switching time is minimized. There's dedicated and easily accessible volume buttons. The screen has a comfortable aspect ratio and can be set to any angle, where it remains stiffly. And most importantly, it runs desktop software. With these controls, it's more ergonomic to use desktop software in miniature than it is to poke about at a touchscreen.

Re: Smart Phone, Dumb Terminal

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I've been saying this for ages — the future setup is going to be phones as a singular device. When you get home, you'll dock it to be able to use your peripherals or extra monitors. Phones will become even more powerful, but even then anything heavy can be done in the cloud or at the network edge (with minimal latency thanks to 5g, see cloud gaming). OSs will become more convergent (Windows tried it, Huawei's doing i…

> even then anything heavy can be done in the cloud or at the network edge (with minimal latency thanks to 5g, see cloud gaming). Hard doubt. And anyways, why 5G? I don't see any figures where 5G outperforms fiber in latency.

Even if it did, that's only talking about latency pushing the image down. I wouldn't expect input latency to ever improve to the point that most gamers play exclusively via cloud.

Re: Smart Phone, Dumb Terminal

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I've been saying this for ages — the future setup is going to be phones as a singular device. When you get home, you'll dock it to be able to use your peripherals or extra monitors. Phones will become even more powerful, but even then anything heavy can be done in the cloud or at the network edge (with minimal latency thanks to 5g, see cloud gaming). OSs will become more convergent (Windows tried it, Huawei's doing i…

> the future setup is going to be phones as a singular device

I had a four-day weekend where the only device I had was my Android phone. I needed to work on a release of our software, so I had to fix a few bugs, write a press release, get content ready for the website. On the way out, I grabbed the laptop bag, but forgot the laptop. On some of the higher-end android devices, if you plug them into a monitor you get desktop mode. So down to the hotel "business center" I went with my LG Wing and plugged in a monitor, keyboard and mouse using the usb-c dongle I usually use as a hub for my laptop. A lot of the apps played nice, so email (Fairemail is a fantastic piece of software), word processing (Google Docs App), editing screenshots (PicSayPro) and SSH(Connectbot) were all fantastic. Could Android desktop mode use a little polish? Sure. For any serious development, I'd prefer to edit and test on localhost... but honestly, the experience wasn't bad, and from time to time I'll go phone-only to the office if I know I'm not going to be coding all day.

Re: Smart Phone, Dumb Terminal

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Similar to what I’ve been doing lately. Bought an M1 iPad (different story…) and have been using MOSH and Blink Shell to access my computer at home running emacs. Has been a blast doing journaling, logging my time in org-mode, writing notes in org-roam for uni subjects. Has been a game-changer for me. I know it’s just a ‘dumb terminal’ but the experience is so seamless it’s incredible. MOSH makes sure the connection doesn’t drop out when I lock the device and come back half a day later. I can be on the train home and fire up that buffer I had going this morning writing a paper in LaTeX, with proper syntax highlighting, completion, snippets… incredible.

Re: Smart Phone, Dumb Terminal

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It was around 2000, after buying a Cassiopeia E-100 that I realized a keyboard makes any computer massively more usable. With that I bought a Psion 5MX, used it great success, and never considered a device without a physical keyboard again. Switched off to Nokia Communicators, then several Android Sliders. All worked great. I was always the guy in the conference room who could login to servers and look-up info, despi…

I have a Gemini PDA and also an AstroSlide on order which should be shipping soon. I think it is exactly what you are looking for: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/astro-slide-5g-transforme...

Re: Smart Phone, Dumb Terminal

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It was around 2000, after buying a Cassiopeia E-100 that I realized a keyboard makes any computer massively more usable. With that I bought a Psion 5MX, used it great success, and never considered a device without a physical keyboard again. Switched off to Nokia Communicators, then several Android Sliders. All worked great. I was always the guy in the conference room who could login to servers and look-up info, despi…

I have an alternate solution to propose to you that I used for a couple of years quite happily:

- Smart Watch for Voice/Text

- small Tablet with keyboard cover and LTE in your pocket for everything else

These days I have a different situation where I prefer not to have anything if I’m away from computer and I just use the Watch. I have the Apple Watch / AirPods which works quite well, but I know not everybody wants to commit to the Apple ecosystem. When I was doing the tablet-in-pocket thing, I was a bit more cross platform and it still worked great with Google Voice as the central hub for everything.

Re: Smart Phone, Dumb Terminal

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I’m a big believer in this idea; so much so that I have a Bluetooth keyboard for my Boox Note 2 e-ink tablet. Very writing, reading books and note taking via the stylus focused, though e-ink refresh even on a device like this might be too slow for some (depending on what refresh setting you choose), it’s entirely replaced the need for paper in my life — and for travelling at least around Queensland it’s been brilliant.

Re: Smart Phone, Dumb Terminal

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post #41

I got a GPD Micro PC a couple months ago and I'm in love. It's a magical size - exactly small enough to slip into a back pocket like a chunky phone, and exactly large enough that it's actually practical to use desktop software on it. It's ergonomically first-rate - I've done CAD work on it. And it's durable too - I've dropped it several times already and it's barely even scratched. It's also unlocked a class of activ…

How's the battery life? Can you replace the battery if/when it gets old?

That looks like something I could buy. I've really wanted a tiny console PC with RS232 and ethernet for a long time now. I thought about building one into a custom keyboard using something like a raspberry pi but I haven't had the time to follow through. This thing looks like it could make my diy project unnecessary.

I also haven't found phones particularly appealing.. mine gets 5-6 days on a charge because it's mostly just an alarm clock. Any time I try to do anything with it, I get frustrated by how clumsy it is compared to an actual computer. I do like being able to look at maps or make a call in an emergency, and it's handy having a camera always in the pocket, but that's pretty much where the appeal ends.

Re: Smart Phone, Dumb Terminal

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Similar to what I’ve been doing lately. Bought an M1 iPad (different story…) and have been using MOSH and Blink Shell to access my computer at home running emacs. Has been a blast doing journaling, logging my time in org-mode, writing notes in org-roam for uni subjects. Has been a game-changer for me. I know it’s just a ‘dumb terminal’ but the experience is so seamless it’s incredible. MOSH makes sure the connection…

What is the UX for switching between apps or moving the screen like?

Can you do this with keyboard shortcuts or do you find yourself switching between keyboard and touch screen for some interactions?

I find this idea of using a keyboard super appealing but don’t like the idea of switching between keyboard and screen all the time. At least a virtual keyboard is on the screen!

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