Threads are great for helping you to actively ignore a discussion, but discord is a casual discussion app. Threads make it harder and weirder for people to chime in halfway through or to catch up on what people have been saying. Channels are used to group conversation topics that some people might want to ignore. I’d rather not have threads
Discord Launches Threads
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#52Threads are great for helping you to actively ignore a discussion, but discord is a casual discussion app. Threads make it harder and weirder for people to chime in halfway through or to catch up on what people have been saying. Channels are used to group conversation topics that some people might want to ignore. I’d rather not have threads
Discord is after Slack's market share and offering threads makes sense in many contexts where the discussion isn't casual.
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#53Threads are great for helping you to actively ignore a discussion, but discord is a casual discussion app. Threads make it harder and weirder for people to chime in halfway through or to catch up on what people have been saying. Channels are used to group conversation topics that some people might want to ignore. I’d rather not have threads
Discord is after Slack's market share and offering threads makes sense in many contexts where the discussion isn't casual.
Man, I wish Slack would implement Discords "reply" feature that automatically quotes the post and @mentions the poster.
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#54Threads suck!
I know this is being downvoted, but I find it genuinely interesting how much negative fervor there is towards threads. So it's a useful contribution to me! I use Slack threads everyday. I've only heard of one person in our org (or in any org I've been in prior that used slack) who had strong opinions about threads. Thanks for the very genuine opinion. Perhaps I'll start refining my own opinions about chat app threads…
They suck because Slack's implementation of them suck. It's basically a feature MVP that hasn't been touched in years. Hopefully this Discord feature release will put some fire under them.
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#55Cool. Still waiting for proper / modern / real parental controls. My 13 y/o nephew wants to chat with his buddies but there’s no real way to make sure he’s not getting weirdos contacting him.
There is already a setting which prevents people not on your friends list from contacting you, as well as a setting limiting who can request to add you as a friend. What more do you need?
I think it's a case of "I don't want this kid to change these features unless there is direct parental approval". Sure those settings exist, but unless there's some policy way to prevent them from being changed it's pointless.
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#56This looks similar to the Zulip implementation which I sorely wish Mattermost had (since we use that at work)
I work at Mattermost -- we do have this, it's just still in beta right now https://docs.mattermost.com/messaging/organizing-conversatio...
Does Mattermost also have "uncollapsed" threads like Flowdock? Personally, I think hiding conversation in a group channel is terrible UX. I don't know why people are aping Slack's functionality when I hear almost universally that it sucks.
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#57Is there really no better design for "aside" conversations than this? People lean on Slack threads too much, leading to a confused flow of conversation that makes it extremely difficult to piece together how the discussion was ended or resolved.
I kind of feel similar. I already thought that the Replies feature was a better compromise for a chat room than Slack's threads (which I hated because so much conversation would just "disappear" from channels only to find out it was still happening in a thread from days or weeks before), but I'm also in several Discords that migrated from Slack and I know how many of my friends have been complaining that they missed Slack style threads for whatever reason.
I'm going to give this a shot a bit: an in depth reading of this blog post has given me some appreciation that Discord is trying to keep it better than Slack's. They have moderation mentioned front and center, so that feels good to me that they kept it strongly in mind. I also like that they will be visible in the channel list as "sub-channels" and that they will auto-archive with a time limit (defaulting to 24 hours to start). Those two things do try to address things I disliked about Slack's implementation, so I'm hopeful to give it a shot.
Maybe my remaining criticism here is I think I'd prefer the default time limit to be something smaller and related more directly to activity. Maybe something like "after an hour or maybe two hours of silence" to keep them to "active conversation sidebars" only. I also don't like that currently changing the time limit is a Level 2 Boost server feature if I wanted to explore options on smaller servers I control/moderate. On smaller servers your main option is just to turn them off entirely. (Though I sort of understand that it is a Level 2 Boost because from their perspective servers are going to want to increase the time limit as a perk. I wonder if they could make it free to decrease it, if it's not a "perk".)
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#58This makes me sad. Threads suck in chat.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I love having threads on Slack, but I absolutely hate that it always open in the right corner, instead of showing in the center. I always have to drag the border all the way to the left so it's not just a small column on the side
I agree. The Slack thread UX is not ideal, but the flow of conversation is so much better than it was pre-threads. I always end up closing the side bar and navigating to the thread in the "Threads" view. They should make it easier to maximize a thread.
At least this UX of Discord's makes it easy to do that: the article points out that opening the thread from the list below a channel will open it in the main chat view instead of the sidebar. At least from the article it does seem that Discord was paying attention to flaws in Slack's UX.
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#60Is there really no better design for "aside" conversations than this? People lean on Slack threads too much, leading to a confused flow of conversation that makes it extremely difficult to piece together how the discussion was ended or resolved.
Zulip is the only decent implementations of threaded chat I could find, although it’s solution to “aside” conversations is that all conversations are “aside” (or none are), since you are using channels. It does wonders for discoverability though
I feel like threads are a solution to having an enormous continuous channel. Zulip solves this by not having an enormous continous channel. I think it makes sense to have topic-oriented discussion threads, and then have discussion within those threads all in the same continuous stream.