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Explosion in central Oslo

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Re: Explosion in central Oslo

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Post by kevinpet »

cheez wrote: post #40
InclinedPlane wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't necessarily rule out al qaeda involvement, there have been caucasian taliban et al before. But we shouldn't jump to conclusions until we have the facts regardless.

I remember the Oklahoma bombing and the first picture was of some random brown muslim guy. Turns out, it was a white athiest. Look up the FBI stats on radical muslim bombings on US soil vs radical christian vs radical athiest bombings. In fact, I seem to recall that radical jews had more attacks on US soil than radical muslims. And since 9/11 was so neatly sown up, we'll never really know who was truly behind it.

McVeigh was sort of Catholic. He wasn't motivated by religious extremism, but he was not an atheist.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Political_views...

Re: Explosion in central Oslo

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Post by cheez »

eibrahim wrote: post #44
cheez wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember the Oklahoma bombing and the first picture was of some random brown muslim guy. Turns out, it was a white athiest. Look up the FBI stats on radical muslim bombings on US soil vs radical christian vs radical athiest bombings. In fact, I seem to recall that radical jews had more attacks on US soil than radical muslims. And since 9/11 was so neatly sown up, we'll never really know who was truly behind it.

Come on man. You are delusional!!! Terrorist attacks are 90% by muslim extremists... Stop living in a fantasy world... new york, washington dc, london, spain, egypt, turkey, mumbai, kenya, yemen, thailand, Philippines, russia etc... I am not saying all of them but 90% is probably very accurate... Instead of blaming it on others, it should be addressed by the muslim world and not just denied. When a radical christian…

I'm not making it up. It's a real thing: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-musl...

Re: Explosion in central Oslo

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Post by alain94040 »

swah wrote: post #34

We need to partition HN. I love your input, but "If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."

Agreed. That's why I flagged this article (not that it mattered much). It's new I care about, but it was the #1 headline on CNN and every other European news site so I don't need to see it on HN.

Re: Explosion in central Oslo

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Post by blantonl »

guruz wrote: post #32

I'm living in Oslo. With my friends here there is already a Facebook worm going on which is supposed to show some video footage about the explosion but when you click it you're just spreading/liking the video. Shocking to see how fast spammers are.

I'd bet these guys have templates in place just for major events - especially terrorist attacks.

I recall on Sept 11th the sheer rush from users to consume information on the Internet. If something like 9/11 ever happens again anywhere in the world, spammers will jump right on the event like flies on sh*t.

Re: Explosion in central Oslo

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Post by InclinedPlane »

burgerbrain wrote: post #24
splat wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their more important enemies are also probably more difficult to attack.

Their more important enemies undoubtedly have more security theatre, but I highly doubt they would actually be harder to attack.

Security theatre isn't the extent of all security measures being taken in the US and other countries. There is a lot of effort going on that is less visible, though sometimes there are arrests that make the news. In the end we only have the crude statistics of observing events vs non-events, if the US were actually just as easy to hit then logically there should have been more successful attacks, but that's not the case.

Re: Explosion in central Oslo

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Post by epynonymous »

sorry but this article is absolutely awful, my sympathies to the affected victims, but there's not a single analysis of the situation. was it terrorist based, was it a hate crime, why is this stoltenberg guy such an apparent tool, what does his party do, and i love how the article makes an ass out of stoltenberg by possibly mis-quoting him as someone who has a god complex by stating that all govt ministers are ok, what about those injured and killed!? unimportant? obviously the article is against stoltenberg unless he's really that much of an incompassionate dickwad

the police in oslo much be very tight lipped, this must also be the first crime aince medieval times :)

Re: Explosion in central Oslo

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Post by shrikant »

cheez wrote: post #40
InclinedPlane wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't necessarily rule out al qaeda involvement, there have been caucasian taliban et al before. But we shouldn't jump to conclusions until we have the facts regardless.

I remember the Oklahoma bombing and the first picture was of some random brown muslim guy. Turns out, it was a white athiest. Look up the FBI stats on radical muslim bombings on US soil vs radical christian vs radical athiest bombings. In fact, I seem to recall that radical jews had more attacks on US soil than radical muslims. And since 9/11 was so neatly sown up, we'll never really know who was truly behind it.

> Look up the FBI stats on radical muslim bombings on US soil vs radical christian vs radical athiest bombings.

There's no such thing as a 'radical atheist' in the sense that you're using it, mate. Also, there's no mention of atheists in the FBI stats you speak of - http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-200...

(Sorry, I'm sensitive to this, but then this is why we shouldn't be discussing religion and politics on HN...)

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