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The Bezos backlash is bigger than Blue Origin’s success

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Re: The Bezos backlash is bigger than Blue Origin’s success

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In other words, you can cancel the renewal without cancelling the current year

Yes. I have a problem with verbosity, and you said it with much greater clarity and brevity than I managed. Thank you!

I have the same problem. It's far easier to summarize what someone else than to do it yourself.

You're quite welcome!

Re: The Bezos backlash is bigger than Blue Origin’s success

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If you're writing to a corporate office, that's different. But the people at an individual store have no real control and can only forward your objections up the line.

I just wrote to Dick's about it.

Ah, sorry. I originally read your message as harassing the poor retail employees (or managers).

It's quite possible that the stuff you're complaining about sells to other people. If so, I can see keeping their customers that purchase happy.

Re: The Bezos backlash is bigger than Blue Origin’s success

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> Even if we stole 10B from Bezos and gave it out equally to every US citizen... Its ~$30. I mean, obviously it's gonna look small if we fixate on Bezos specifically. If we "stole" a flat $1B from every American billionaire and paid it out equally to every US citizen, that stimulus jumps up to $1,996.70. If we "stole" all the money from every billionaire, that'd jump up further to $12,569.61. We can go further. The t…

lol. If you made the top %1 liquidate all their assets to give to others everything would stop working. You would create more problems than ever. Somebody would have to buy the assets, and because we are doing away with anybody who would have the sort of money to buy the assets, you would likely deadlock long before you would get 34 trillion out of the system. Like its mind boggling what you said. Where would this mo…

> Somebody would have to buy the assets

Most of those assets fall into two categories:

1. Real estate, which doesn't need to be liquidated to be put under public ownership

2. Corporate shares, which don't need to be liquidated to be put under public ownership

The thought experiment around liquidating that wealth and cutting everyone a check was purely a response to your own hypothetical of liquidating a fraction of one billionaire's wealth and cutting everyone a check. Specifically, it was to point out that your "argument" misses the bigger picture around how much wealth is locked up in the accounts of even just billionaires, let alone millionaires.

> But beyond that, stealing money assets, or even in this case "net worth" is immoral.

Unless the wealthy do it through rent, lobbying, labor exploitation (including union busting), and monopolization, then it's all hunky-dory, right?

That's why I put "steal" in scare quotes. Retaking wealth already stolen from the working class is the precise opposite of theft, yet here you and others are, white-knighting for the poor millionaires.

Something's gotta give, or else the outcome will inevitably be far worse for that 1% than merely having to liquidate their assets.

Re: The Bezos backlash is bigger than Blue Origin’s success

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>But beyond that, stealing money assets, or even in this case "net worth" is immoral. 100% agree, so lets tax the fucker, and all the other fuckers.

> so lets tax the fucker, and all the other fuckers I'm not a fan of Bezos or the other "fuckers", but how are American billionaires going to pay that tax? They'll have to sell assets to someone not subject to the tax, probably a billionaire from another country. Do you really imagine anything will get better when most big American businesses are owned by foreign billionaires? Will working conditions in Amazon wareho…

> They'll have to sell assets to someone not subject to the tax, probably a billionaire from another country.

Or you could tax the assets themselves, in which case it no longer matters who owns them. And seeing as how certain assets - like land - have inelastic supply (i.e. taxation doesn't affect the price point set by supply v. demand) and can't exactly be moved to offshore accounts, taxing the value of those assets would be far more economically sound than the current emphasis on income and payroll taxes.

Re: The Bezos backlash is bigger than Blue Origin’s success

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>But beyond that, stealing money assets, or even in this case "net worth" is immoral. 100% agree, so lets tax the fucker, and all the other fuckers.

> so lets tax the fucker, and all the other fuckers I'm not a fan of Bezos or the other "fuckers", but how are American billionaires going to pay that tax? They'll have to sell assets to someone not subject to the tax, probably a billionaire from another country. Do you really imagine anything will get better when most big American businesses are owned by foreign billionaires? Will working conditions in Amazon wareho…

If alibaba pays tax then I'm happy with that exchange.
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