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One by One, My Friends Were Sent to the Camps

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A magazine dangling this important humanitarian story behind a “soft” paywall to sell subscriptions, no less. Imagine the reaction if they had done this with their COVID collection.

If you cared enough to finance open access to the article, I'm sure they'd be amenable.

I would also be financing the rest of what they publish, so it’s a non-starter for me. This journalist should quit and go to Substack.

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After visiting Auschwitz, I expected (or maybe hoped) that the world would never let it happen again. “How could they do this?”, People asked. “That would never happen today” people murmured. Yet, here we are. Reading the 15th article about it, while the White House deletes tweets that likely anger the CCP They should be removed from most favored nation status. Governments could do a lot more but don’t

Practically speaking, there's very little most governments can do to the most populous nation in the world with a military infrastructure rivaled by only a handful of other countries.

And even fewer things they could do that don't ultimately culminate in massive bloodshed.

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I hadn't realized that the absolute number in the Xinjiang camps --- "more than 1 million", according to the article --- is half the number of people in US prisons. It's 4% of the population of Xinjiang, compared to less than 1% of the population of the US, but of course it's 0.1% of the population of China as a whole, and there are US communities that are more heavily incarcerated. The whole situation is appalling,…

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After visiting Auschwitz, I expected (or maybe hoped) that the world would never let it happen again. “How could they do this?”, People asked. “That would never happen today” people murmured. Yet, here we are. Reading the 15th article about it, while the White House deletes tweets that likely anger the CCP They should be removed from most favored nation status. Governments could do a lot more but don’t

It's heart-breaking to see many of my Chinese friends / peers keep their heads in the sand about this. Usually they'll fall silent the topic arises. At most, they'll say something about cultural differences and social cohesion and that as an American I just couldn't possibly understand. If I press them on it they'll mention the Japanese internment camps in WWII, and I'll agree with them that it was awful and that my…

> I'll agree with them that it was awful and that my country has done evil things that I am ashamed of

I think what a lot of the non-West feels is that the West has done horrible things, benefited from it, and continues to commit modern colonialism and direct/indirect exploitation of developing countries to continually benefit from them.

The dissonance is in thinking that the West is no longer doing these things and only the Enemy (China/Russia/whoever) is.

Thus, taking an (invalid) higher moral ground is what probably turns your friends away.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A magazine dangling this important humanitarian story behind a “soft” paywall to sell subscriptions, no less. Imagine the reaction if they had done this with their COVID collection.

That's just capitalism for you. The same happens with all important news stories, including about covid and active warzones. It's a problem, sure, but it doesn't invalidate journalism entirely.

It's not capitalism. Everything needs funding. Capitalism just means it's voluntary funding instead of mandatory funding.

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> while the White House deletes tweets that likely anger the CCP I haven't heard about this. Could you elaborate?

I've heard of tweets taken down, but always assumed Twitter was self censoring

If Twitter censors based on gov't guidelines, suggestions, or threats, is it really 'self-censoring'?

[1]https://taibbi.substack.com/p/a-case-of-intellectual-capture...

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I'm glad he made it to the US. Of course because it's The Atlantic, they were obligated to implicate the US as a co-conspirator: "Islamophobic discourses that gathered strength in the U.S. have been central to China’s efforts to justify its Xinjiang policies". Yeah, of course it's all really our fault, of course. Keep in mind, The Atlantic is a lifestyle magazine.

> Keep in mind, The Atlantic is a lifestyle magazine. Have you ever read The Atlantic? Quite a few of its writers have either been nominated for or outright won Pulitzers, with one winner this year [1]. Even beyond awards, it has published important reporting [2] and very influential commentary [3]. [1] - https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/ed-yong-atlantic [2] - https://pulitzercenter.org/publications/atlantic [3] - ht…

It's undeniable that the Atlantic has become overly polarizing (like every other American outlet). But for every Pulitzer winner, they have 5 other writers writing overly-partisan clickbait. Right now under their "Most Popular" column, the top article has "Trump" in it. Trump has been out of office for over 6 months, and people are still fucking writing about him, still giving him coverage.

If Trump wins again in 2024, he'll have won mostly because left-leaning rags learned nothing from 2016 by constantly giving him free press.

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After visiting Auschwitz, I expected (or maybe hoped) that the world would never let it happen again. “How could they do this?”, People asked. “That would never happen today” people murmured. Yet, here we are. Reading the 15th article about it, while the White House deletes tweets that likely anger the CCP They should be removed from most favored nation status. Governments could do a lot more but don’t

Practically speaking, there's very little most governments can do to the most populous nation in the world with a military infrastructure rivaled by only a handful of other countries. And even fewer things they could do that don't ultimately culminate in massive bloodshed.

maybe stop financing them? We are voluntarily paying them to manufacture most of our stuff.

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Unbound technological surveillance in the hands of a few, and police state on the basis of false flags are the stepping stones to RealFreedom™

What false flags are you referring to?

Don’t worry, I’m sure they are only referring to the approved ones. No need to get excited.
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