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Re: Creep – a pretty sweet 4px wide pixel font

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Post by app4soft » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 5:27 AM UTC

saladuh wrote: post #20

If anyone's looking for a bitmap/pixel font that covers many symbols, including all necessary powerline symbols and a large portion of the various nerd font symbols, I can't recommend Cozette[0] enough. Recently the author has began updating and releasing new versions after a hiatus. Also, if you use the otf version of the font instead of the bitmap/otb version you can still get it to look like a pixel perfect bitmap…

The only problem with Cozette is that it is 5px wide pixel font.

So, here is comparison of minimal LCD width required to print "Hacker News" (without quotations marks):

- in Cozette: 65px

- in Creep: 54px

Re: Creep – a pretty sweet 4px wide pixel font

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Post by DonHopkins » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 5:28 AM UTC

I recently posted this in the hoard-of-bitmaps thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27781606

It should include the 3x5 pixel font from Mike Koss's "The Terminal" on the Apple ][.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18142258

>DonHopkins on Oct 4, 2018 | parent | favorite | on: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you rememb...

Who can possibly forget the font that Mike Koss's "The Terminal" Apple ][ terminal emulator used to get 32 lines of 70 characters each in HIRES graphics mode in 1981? It's the most difficult to read font I've ever used regularly! (Don't try using it on a color TV, though.)

https://web.archive.org/web/20120206091422/http://mckoss.com...

>Tiny (3x5) Font

>In 1981 I wrote a terminal emulator for the Apple II. At the time, the Apple II could only display upper case characters. I used the hi-res display (280 x 192 pixels!) to display my own character set. In order to come close to showing an 80-column display, I created a truly tiny font, displaying the full ASCII character set (upper and lower case).

>I created a font within a 3x5 pixel dimension, allowing the display of 32 lines of 70 characters each. The font definitely takes some training and getting used to (especially recognition of characters that use descenders); but I found it to be quite readable after a while.

Re: Creep – a pretty sweet 4px wide pixel font

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Post by vletal » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 5:52 AM UTC

infogulch wrote: post #41

This is great! Unfortunately, it hasn't been updated since 2016 and isn't suitable for applications outside Terminal.app. But apparently someone else took up the mantle and rebuilt it to solve those issues and published it as creep2: https://github.com/raymond-w-ko/creep2 > I love romeovs's creep font, but I think you could only use it well in Apple's Terminal.app because it has negative line and character width spac…

Thanks for the link! My tiny little display attached to RPi is very much looking forward to trying it out.

Re: Creep – a pretty sweet 4px wide pixel font

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Post by zserge » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 6:04 AM UTC

Nice and clean! I have been playing around the possibility to make a 2x3 bitmap font, but that turned out to be rather a cryptic constellation of pixels than a proper font: https://zserge.com/posts/tiny-font/

Re: Creep – a pretty sweet 4px wide pixel font

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Post by pindab0ter » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 6:13 AM UTC

83457 wrote: post #47

sxp wrote: post #4

Another tiny font is the 3x4 one used by PICO-8: https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?tid=3760

the M is terrible. I wish that would be fixed

It’s not great, but definitely not ‘terrible’. Besides, how could you possibly do a better job given the constraints?

Re: Creep – a pretty sweet 4px wide pixel font

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Post by jerrre » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 6:20 AM UTC

zserge wrote: post #54

Nice and clean! I have been playing around the possibility to make a 2x3 bitmap font, but that turned out to be rather a cryptic constellation of pixels than a proper font: https://zserge.com/posts/tiny-font/

Nice experiment! Would be nice to see some example text in the end..

Re: Creep – a pretty sweet 4px wide pixel font

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Post by qart » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 6:32 AM UTC

throwawaysea wrote: post #16

I didn't realize people were using fonts to do things like visualize data. Is that common? Are there other fonts that are suitable for this?

https://github.com/Evizero/UnicodePlots.jl this seems pretty popular in Julia, inspired by Drawille mentioned in the article.

Re: Creep – a pretty sweet 4px wide pixel font

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Post by infofarmer » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 6:45 AM UTC

> I love you all, so please use this font as much as you like for free. However, I would like to make sure you provide others the same liberty in creep's new incarnations. Therefore creep is licensed under the MIT License.

Happy it’s permissively licensed under MIT, but I wonder if the author intended to use a sticky license instead.

Re: Creep – a pretty sweet 4px wide pixel font

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Post by kls0e » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 7:12 AM UTC

The Ultimate Oldschool PC Font Pack (v2.2) by VileR:

https://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/

Re: Creep – a pretty sweet 4px wide pixel font

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Post by exikyut » Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 7:33 AM UTC

jerrre wrote: post #56

zserge wrote: post #54

Nice and clean! I have been playing around the possibility to make a 2x3 bitmap font, but that turned out to be rather a cryptic constellation of pixels than a proper font: https://zserge.com/posts/tiny-font/

Nice experiment! Would be nice to see some example text in the end..

There's a jsfiddle link to semi-interactive demo at the end of the article: https://jsfiddle.net/4urdtahx/

My eyes cannot sweep-read the result at all, and I also can't fully disambiguate enough characters in each word for the words to just "pop", even with effort.