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Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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I don't know what happened there, but some things in cookiengineers posts does not add up. There is no "BKA Heidelberg". The BKA has three offices in Germany, and Heidelberg is not one of them. Also, the BKA will likely not investigate in such a matter. It is doing large scale investigations crossing federal borders, like organized crime or terrorism. It is not working on local crime cases on the described scale. This is done by "normal" local police.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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I don't go on 4chan, have no idea what "sneedacity" is, and have only been a critic of the new Muse team, but haven't paid attention to the forks.

For all intents and purposes, I'm an outside observer.

This doesn't make sense to me. Why would 4chan be involved? 4chan doesn't just get involved in something they don't care about. You usually have to piss them off in some way to gain their attention.

In almost 10 years of Github activity, I've never seen 4chan bleed over.

For claiming to have never posted there, you sure seem to know how it works. By contrast, people unfamiliar with it usually have no idea the boards are referred to as /g/ or /b/ or whatever. That doesn't sound like someone who's never posted there before to me.

So some random people showed up at your place here in Germany, you somehow figured out they were from 4chan, you were attacked, then you found all the links of them talking about you... all because of what? Like, what caused this? I don't believe for a second you had nothing to do and you were just a completely random bystander.

Because of this, your claim that you've "never posted to 4chan" doesn't make any sense to me. 4chan doesn't just fuck with people for no reason. I'm not defending them whatsoever, but there is some semblance of a method to their madness.

Further, you're saying "flag this repository for hate speech and violence". But I don't see any of that in that repo aside from some harmless memes. The maintainers of that repo have full names and pictures of themselves - surely they care enough about their safety not to be involved with this? Unless they're incredibly dumb.

In fact, that repository has quite a bit of seemingly legitimate original development work on it that isn't PR'd/cherry-picked from other repos. Why would people interested in simply harming you, randomly, also build up a seemingly legitimate fork of Audacity in the meantime?

Also, if that repository really is violating rules, and you really do have an open police case, then that repo will get taken down by court order anyway.

Lastly, three days after making this announcement, you >>updated> [tackling problems including] defamation attempts by Internet Trolls >>and other (state-level) actors that abuse the power of unverifiable sources.This doesn't sound like a person on level ground to me. This sounds like far-reaching paranoia or some kind of break down. If you were worried about state actors after this incident, why are you working with the German federal police? With Github?

This just doesn't make any sense. It comes off as someone who is emotional, unstable or upset about something, or even trying to cover up a mistake (it's similar to how I've acted when I've screwed something up when I was much younger).

This is a type of drama I've literally never seen on Github - and I've seen a lot. I am forced to assume cookieengineer's claim of not being involved whatsoever is just an outright lie, and thus this whole announcement kind of crumbles (no pun intended) for me.

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EDIT: Looking through the Tenacity fork, wow that whole entire team has drama issues. There are quite a few issues on there about people asking questions and having them deleted, long monologues about censorship and "this is the workplace of tenacity members", etc.

It feels very "kids club". It doesn't surprise me it's attracted weird drama/attention.

Take everything with a grain of salt here. The attempted murder claims are very fishy.

EDIT2: Also, worth pointing out that the federal police here wouldn't normally see a case like this, if I understand it correctly (I might not). Normally the Polizei would handle this sort of thing. It's the equivalent of going to the FBI for someone threatening you in the street.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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Why would anyone in particular 4chan care about this fork? It's like 20 commits (but apparently 20 weeks of drama) ahead of audacity and you already need a decoder ring to read this thread.

I've had my house egged and repainted, and been physically assaulted at events over baseless personal grudges held by others. You could tell me they hate the guy just for existing, and it'd be 100% believable. If I had to guess - I'd say it was down to refusing their name suggestion. Which is a really damn petty reason to hate someone, but one I can entirely believe. One of the personal grudges I was dragged into was…

But the thing is... he claims he's never posted there. So how did they catch wind of him even existing?

It doesn't make any sense to me. Of course what they're saying in those threads is inexcusible but I don't think cookieengineer is giving the full truth either.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Link?

https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/82445042#p82445152 That room looks extremely American to me. Cookiengineer is in Germany.

The "evidence markers" are handwritten on post-it notes. CSI does not do that for.. many, many reasons. There's no way this is real.

Re: Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan

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post #53
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had my house egged and repainted, and been physically assaulted at events over baseless personal grudges held by others. You could tell me they hate the guy just for existing, and it'd be 100% believable. If I had to guess - I'd say it was down to refusing their name suggestion. Which is a really damn petty reason to hate someone, but one I can entirely believe. One of the personal grudges I was dragged into was…

But the thing is... he claims he's never posted there. So how did they catch wind of him even existing? It doesn't make any sense to me. Of course what they're saying in those threads is inexcusible but I don't think cookieengineer is giving the full truth either.

/g/ has it's pulse on the happenings in the tech world just as much as hn. I'm sure they knew about the Audacity situation because it's interesting stuff. From my PoV the "4chan raided a naming poll and then got mad when their polling was overridden" story checks out 100%.
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