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The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by nousermane »

Aperocky wrote: post #33
JoeyBananas wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft Windows is even worse. Constant disruptive updates, forcing you to make an account during install, ads in the start menu, that creepy "Cortana" process that you can't kill...

From this perspective it's amazing. I ditched Windows completely for about 5 years (coinciding with my time in Software). And had to deal with none of these problems any more, I always remember that I hated windows for some reason but can't seem to pinpoint/remember, but now you've reminded me.

What OS did you switch to?

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by np1810 »

tantalor wrote: post #30

There are some instagram mirrors you can use: https://dumpor.com/v/polite_cat_olli_official https://bibliogram.art/u/polite_cat_olli_official Suffering the ads is preferable to whatever fb wants.

Thanks for these mirrors... I used to visit picuki website which used to work great until recently...

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Post by pahn »

glennvtx wrote: post #23
axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

The web reddit is just awful. Leave a thread open for some time, and navigation even breaks.

saved reddit for me: https://teddit.net/

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by tgtweak »

throw7 wrote: post #40

Facebook does this too. I'll go to a link to a facebook page and be greeted some seconds later with nonsense about having to login. There's also that facebook login box that covers the bottom of the page.

Yeah unless it's a business, even then, you're pushed to sign up for an account to message the business. As a business, I would be weighing my options here as your Facebook page is often one of the first to show in the results. Not long until Facebook starts advertising other businesses over your business page.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

"Wow, fuck you. I just wanted to look at cats."

"Well, fuck you, too. We're here to sell ads."

It's not about dark patterns, that's just a second-order effect. It was never about dark patterns.

This is the implied agreement. You understand it, or you don't. And if you don't, I guess you haven't been on the web in the past decade or something.

What? You thought it was fair that a company spends millions in technical infrastructure and staffing so you can sit at home and spend your time looking at cats for free? No, they have your attention and they're going to connect you to organizations who will pay for it.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by beachy »

fishtoaster wrote: post #37

I'm glad we now have a name for this. If I may take a stab at a more formal, reusable definition of the Fuck You pattern: A UI pattern whereby content a user wants is provided, then yanked away before it can be consumed, to be replaced by a demand for something the site wants (log in, sign up, subscribe, pay, etc). It's distinct from merely providing a limited amount of content in the first place, as when a site offe…

Maybe that should be the Yanker pattern, since there are certainly many more scummy behaviours that merit the Fuck You label.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by temporallobe »

mulmen wrote: post #9
axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

What I don’t understand is why Reddit wants us to use the app so badly. Is it just for ads? Is it data collection?

My guess is because it’s harder to block ads through the app than it is in the browser-based version (at least in iOS). Whatever the actual reason is, the asshole design (which ironically they have an entire subreddit for) actually discourages me from using Reddit, so I’ve been using it a lot less in the past couple of years.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by kderbyma »

for the areas where you may not want to use profanity, we could also call this a 'Hold-Up' or Bank Robbery pattern - essentially they are holding you at gunpoint for your data which we know they will immediately sell regardless of if you want to use their platform for anything other than that one link
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