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Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#51

Again, this doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense without location data. I'm voting with my salary adjusted to San Francisco levels by using the following adjustment tool: http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ I'd recommend that people do the same so we can remove a substantial source of noise from this poll and actually get a meaningful distribution.

Sheesh, I live in Austin, TX and according to that, my salary adjusted for San Francisco nearly doubles.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#52

Again, this doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense without location data. I'm voting with my salary adjusted to San Francisco levels by using the following adjustment tool: http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ I'd recommend that people do the same so we can remove a substantial source of noise from this poll and actually get a meaningful distribution.

I'm not sure that is accurate. To my surprise...my NYC salary of $176,000 adjusted to San Francisco should be $217,151 Is SF really more expensive then NYC?

Use WolframAlpha instead: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%24176%2C000+in+manhatt...

More accurate and they give a lot more details to the data.

*Note: I specifically stated 'Manhattan' in that query

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#53
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If you look at how salaries are distributed across the US public, the 60k - 100k category is way too large while 151k-200k should probably be just one range and not two. As someone who hires programmers, I am much more interested in how many people make between 60-70, 70-85, and 85-100.

The buckets might have a Valley bias. It seems the only programmers at SV companies that make less than 100k these days are interns.

Actually, this is a serious consideration. Location greatly affects pay, as cost of living changes. For example, it's substantially more expensive to live in Silicon Valley than it is to live in Cocoa Beach, FL or Seattle, WA

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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post #21

Quite interesting. In Germany or Europe very very few programmers would make more than 100k USD (around 70k EUR) unless he is in some position where he leads a team or oversees bigger projects. Then i see how cheap cars and computer hardware etc is in the US and i really start to wonder where this massive difference comes from. US engineers seem to earn way more and generally pay much less for many things. Apple hard…

We work many more hours and we have to pay more for benefits like health care. Most other medical costs are higher here too; drugs are a lot more expensive in the US than the rest of the world, because the drug companies fold the research and testing costs into our prices, and only include manufacturing and distribution costs in the rest of the world's pricing. Cars might be cheaper here, and gas certainly is, but we…

That is not the case that the large drug companies sell for distribution + manufacturing cost. If that were the case, drugs would be essentially free in the rest of the world and they most certainly are not for brand names. In Canada the government sets the price. Here's a chart that's still relevant that shows prices in US/Canada/Mexico: http://cummings.house.gov/pdf/intl.pdf

Some generic drugs cost literally pennies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_drug#Economics

The drug companies convince foreign governments to let them charge more because they say it costs a lot to develop the drugs. Other countries pay too. The US isn't the only one.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#57

Again, this doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense without location data. I'm voting with my salary adjusted to San Francisco levels by using the following adjustment tool: http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ I'd recommend that people do the same so we can remove a substantial source of noise from this poll and actually get a meaningful distribution.

I'm not sure that is accurate. To my surprise...my NYC salary of $176,000 adjusted to San Francisco should be $217,151 Is SF really more expensive then NYC?

  Yes, although a large part of it depends on if you want to rent or buy. Rent is comparable in both cities from what I've seen, although nyc (unlin=ke san francisco) has semi reliable public transport and more rent friedly areas with reasonable commutes.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#58

I live in New Brunswick, Canada and make $45,000. Pretty decent wage around here.

RIM doubles workforce in Fredericton: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/01/12...

"Most of the jobs are expected to be in the $60,000 to $75,000 range."

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we do that then we would be trusting that tool, which doesn't look right to me. (I don't think that SF is 138% more expensive than Miami, FL.) Let's put whatever we make, knowing that it's just an approximation. By the way, I'd rather live in an expensive city making proportionally more money, because my savings would also be proportionally larger, and when you're buying a plane ticket to Europe online or a pair o…

I live in San Francisco and it is probably 138% more expensive than Miami, FL. A cheapo 1br in the city runs around $1200 a month. Nice places cost $1500-2500 a month. I'm paying $2k a month myself but it's a really nice place w a Golden Gate Bridge, Alcatraz, and city view. How much are places in Miami?

i've lived in SF for 6 years. I have no idea where you can get nice 1BR place with GG Bridge and Bay Views for $2k! Let us know!

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're confused... salaries in Brazil are monthly... US salaries are generally quoted yearly... And differences are even more confusing for comparison because, beyond multiplying by 12 and converting to dollars, you need to remember that in Brazil you get a 13th salary as well, an extra 1/3 salary during your vacation month, the money put into your FGTS, and sometimes other benefits as well. In the US you don…

Nope, I not confused. Im CLT employed and you're right about FGTS.. But I don't have any benefits where I work, and the local employers don't get much better than this. A 'nice' salary in my town would get me somewhere around 21k dollars yearly.

You should consider contracting remotely for US companies (if possible)
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