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Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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> Propaganda isn’t bad by its nature (after-all, almost any content that relays information can be considered a form of propaganda). I have to disagree, propaganda is bad, as its aim isn't to inform, but to manipulate through dishonesty.

PR is a PR term for propaganda. I think it was coined by Bernays.

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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Once you learn the propaganda techniques, you start seeing it everywhere in the mainstream media. I used to think about 10% of the mainstream media was propaganda, now it seems like about 90%.

You see it even more on social media.

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post #18

Once you learn the propaganda techniques, you start seeing it everywhere in the mainstream media. I used to think about 10% of the mainstream media was propaganda, now it seems like about 90%.

Doesn't propaganda require intent? You may be seeing bias but that isn't the same as propaganda.

It requires someone's intent. People happily regurgitate the propaganda they've been indoctrinated with, without recognizing it as such.

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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(Tangential) I'm in Brazil [1] for the first time and was intrigued to learn that the word for "advertising" is "propaganda". Of course anyone who has read Edward Bernays or seen Century of the Self will know the connection, but interesting nonetheless!

[1] I also learned that they spell it "Brasil" here.

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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post #38

Imagine thinking this... >"Propaganda is information (delivered through any medium) designed to persuade, manipulate emotion, and change opinion rather than to inform using logical truths and facts. The aim of propaganda is to change minds via the use of emotion, misinformation, disinformation, truths, half-truths, and cleverly selected facts; not to enlighten (although one can technically propagandize true informati…

> No, any content that relays information is NOT a form of propaganda.

Except... that's the literal meaning of propaganda (it's literally Italian for "propagation"). It's only in the Cold War era (only relatively recently in the time-span of history) that "propaganda" have added that negative connotation.

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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The most annoying common form of propaganda is the association fallacy, which is a more subtle form of the ad hominem fallacy [1].

It works like this:

A. You believe X.

B. A crazy person also believes/believed X.

C. You are a crazy person.

D. Optionally: I won't consider your argument unless you tell me why being a crazy person is ok. Why do you support doing crazy people things like being a serial killer?

Example:

A. You are against cigarette smoking.

B. The Nazis were also against cigarette smoking[2].

C. Therefore you are a Nazi.

D. Optionally: I won't consider your argument unless you tell me why being a Nazi is ok. Why do you support anti-semitism?

This is by far the most common bullshit argument I get when talking with people about controversial topics.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy#Guilt_by_a...

[2]https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/251213.The_Nazi_War_on_C...

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Critical Race Theory is affecting both our children's education as well as the military. And the media is playing games right in front of our faces. Here's just one example: IO 26 - Interview with Lt Col Matthew Lohmeier, USAF on CRT in DoD, His Book Irresistible Revolution https://tv.gab.com/channel/creativedestructionmedia/view/io-... Lt. Col. Matthew Lohmeier called out the social justice scam and paid for it with…

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Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but to manipulate through dishonesty. That's a narrow view of propaganda. You can manipulate through honesty as well.

I think you are taking a wide view of "honesty".

"Don't eat lead paintchips, they cause brain damage" is an example of honest and beneficial propaganda

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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post #28

There's a lot of good content in this article focused on the media. The media is highly visible and well-documented, so it makes sense. I'd like to see more content about indoctrination and propaganda happening in US education. This to me is much more insidious as it takes an impressionable populace (kids and young adults) and provides an authority figure (teachers and professors) that are largely hidden from public…

Do private schools not have propaganda? Student have over a dozen teachers over the course of education. If they "provide whatever narrative they like " it seems students would get a diverse range of perspectives. Not to mention all the perspectives they get from other authorities like their churches, clubs, family members, and... every adult they encounter, and every book too.

Yes. Private school do have 'propaganda' - but that's perfectly ok if it aligns with the parent's wishes. As the parents, we have the right to chose how our children are raised.

Re: Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)

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> Thus, understanding propaganda to guard yourself against it requires not only the use of sound and cogent logic and a set of facts, it requires being on guard against emotional responses. This, I believe, is so important to living in the modern era of constant information and media consumption at our fingertips. Reading (or even participating in) arguments online is one thing I see a lot of. Tons of emotional respo…

> How does one go about opening the minds of those already deeply influenced by propaganda? I have their trust, they still come to me and voice their ideas, however farfetched they may seem. Even if they know I don't believe them, they still open discussion with me. But I cannot seem to find a way to engage in their arguments while involving reasoning.

Maybe you can checkout their single source of information, and make them promise to checkout the other side too...

Both will benefit from checking out alternate sources that opine opposite to our current biases.

We will disagree with most of them, but then, one can basically find out what is factually true or not from a simple comparison, see which facts have been omitted in the reporting, and then make up their minds.

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