Does it run on / require Yggdrasil Linux?
(asking with tongue in cheek)
Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network
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Re: Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's an overlay network (a software defined network that runs on top of another network... like you internet service providers network). It's closer to bittorent than a VPN. It has end-to-end encryption and each node (the app that runs on your PC) distributes routes to each other (similar to how routing works on the Internet between large networks). It appears to be a flat spanning-tree style network. They mention th…
can it be a bit compared to what tailscale does for ipv4 ?
I haven't used tailscale so... I think so? Tailscale is pretty light on the details, and even their docs say that they have been reluctant to describe how it works.
>People often ask us for an overview of how Tailscale works. We’ve been putting off answering that, because we kept changing it!
Yggdrasil is fully peer to peer and doesn't require a central coordinator like tailscale does. Ygg is closer to a global network than a private one. You can make a private network, but if any peers on the network peer to the global net then your whole network is now peered. this should be handled at the firewall level, or with an overlay VPN.
Re: Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network
#53Re: Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Latency is dependent on the underlying peering connections. Yggdrasil will try wherever possible to take the shortest paths in network space, but yes, it's possible those could be physically indirect if the underlying peerings are indirect. Generally on the public network (which is probably a couple thousand nodes in number, where people have contributed a number of public nodes and have interconnected them) we see v…
> Generally on the public network [...] we see very reasonable latencies Could you elaborate with some specific examples on what you see being "very reasonable latencies"?
I'm getting sub 100ms latencies across the continent with multi hop routes through public peers.
Re: Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network
#55Need performance comparison chart. Yggdrasil network throughput vs plain. Yggdrasil processor load and memory overhead vs plain. Yggdrasil latency vs plain. No matter how bad that numbers look. One can at least know beforehand what to expect.
A comparison to ZeroTier is also nice, they both seem to have the same use case (ZT can supply and route IPv4 and IPv6 addresses)
Re: Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
No comprehensive account of Norse mythology was ever written down by those who believed in it, or if it was, those records or references to them have not survived to this day. The only accounts we do have are those compiled by Christian monks who were converting the old Norse believers, right at the end of the pagan era. These accounts are heavily colored by the expectations and the worldview of those monks, and we d…
"For example, much of the popular conception of Ragnarok is heavily influenced by Christian eschatology, instead of the original Norse beliefs. " In more easy words: christians believe that one day the world really ends with judgment day/apocalypse, and interpreted Ragnarok similar as the end of the world, which is what many people today think of Ragnarok (and that view that gets reinforced by the popular movies) But…
> christians believe that one day the world really ends with judgment day/apocalypse, and interpreted Ragnarok similar as the end of the world, which is what many people today think of Ragnarok
There is also the interpretation that we live in a post-Ragnarok world, which conveniently allows the Christian narrative to perfectly mate to the end of the Norse gods’ reign.
Re: Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network
#57The documentation is a little light - is this similar to Freenet?
Re: Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network
#58Also the name of one of the first Linux distributions ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil_Linux/GNU/X )
I glanced at this submission (without reading url) and thought someone was having a chuckle at this ancient distro too!
Re: Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network
#59What a stupid name. Looks like misspelled medicine name.
Wow hey there, let me counter that opinion with my opposing that is very fitting. Sure the word might look a bit crazy to non-nordic people (it is kinda crazy, hard to disagree there) but the meaning of the name is imo really well chosen.
It comes from the fairly well-known norse myth of the world-tree spanning all realms. So a overlay P2P network based on a global spanning tree feels like a very fitting name. But hey, you are free to dislike it for personal reasons if you want :)
Re: Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network
#60Thought it was a StarCraft reference at first, but learned that it actually stems from Norse mythology.
What commercial application will this have for an average consumer that isn't tech-savvy?