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Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by megous »

devit wrote: post #32
hallway_monitor wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh 100%. It's a selfish play I admit. But if there's greater than zero risk of any long-term unknown effects from a vaccine, the number of people already vaccinated means the expected value is probably negative for anyone who hasn't been vaccinated yet.

There seems to be a sizeable number of people who don't want to vaccinate, plus children under 12 won't be, and also the pandemic will survive in developing countries and travelers coming from them for a while. So I think the risk of getting infected in fall may well be significant enough to make taking the vaccine a good decision. Plus of course by vaccinating you no longer need to worry about minimizing infection r…

Vaccination has its risks too. Long-term pain in the vaccinated shoulder, that will eventually spread to the other arm (due to sudden overuse), will not make you enjoy your life either.

Having to test regularly may be less of a bother in life, if you lose this stupid vaccination lottery..., if you want to play on the convenience note.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by dukeofdoom »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #4

I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

As someone not getting the vaccine. I'll explain my reasoning. At this point, the odds of getting COVID are small. And much better treatments are around the corner. Thus a 1% mortality rate for the elderly, with multiple co-morbidities, will be even lower for someone my age should I get it at some point. Vaccines introduce a foreign substance 100% of the time into your body, sometimes have side effects. I won't even date girls that got the vaccine, until more is known about long term effects. I'm worried about possibility of birth defects should a pregnancy occur.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by causality0 »

muststopmyths wrote: post #34
causality0 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I had complete loss of smell and taste, which came back about 90% over the next six weeks. It was fine for a month and then it went wonky. Probably 30% of my "scent spectrum" has now been replaced with the same burnt meat smell/taste. Everything from chocolate to feces to hamburgers now has the same core odor. It really, really sucks.

Did getting vaccinated change anything ? I've heard that vaccinations helped people with long COVID. Hope you recover fully. Edit: since someone asked for citations, here is a CNN link https://us.cnn.com/2021/04/03/health/long-haulers-vaccine-we... I follow the "This week in virology" podcast and they have discussed this extensively as well. Dr Daniel Griffin, cited in the CNN article is a weekly contributor on this…

Unfortunately not. The change in smell happened a few days before my first shot. That's lucky though, as there's no telling what I'd believe if I'd been fine and then thought the shot ruined my taste.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by TaupeRanger »

ganzuul wrote: post #41
elboulangero wrote: post #18

FWIW this thread was a good read: https://mobile.twitter.com/skepticalzebra/status/14058997241... Apparently there are previous studies (pre-covid Era) that found similar changes in the brain associated with loss of smell. Quoting: > What if I told you there was also an illness in which: > "grey matter reduction was observed in the gyrus rectus, orbitofrontal cortex, thalamus, and the insula" > This is taken from a s…

Call me stupid for waiting to get vaccinated... But I'm not stupid enough to base that decision on a Twitter thread. The problem I have is that inclusive discussion is being suppressed, and I can't make a decision based on clearly biased information. ref. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_NNTVJzqtY

The video you linked is removed.for violating guidelines, which I'm guessing means it had a conspiratorial slant. Discussion does not have to include unsupported or crackpot claims to be "inclusive".

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by vajrabum »

ekianjo wrote: post #43
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #4

I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

> You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? Rather than injecting yourself with mRNA which will create long-term antibodies in your organism which will be reactivated any time something like COVID19 appears again in the nature, it's probably safer to rely on COVID19 treatments are are short lived (as in, metabolized) and reduce the viral load swiftly.

What other viral diseases are easily treatable by medication as opposed to vaccination? Are there any?

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by nicoburns »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #46
hallway_monitor wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree completely. That said, ideally I don't want either. Since a lot of people wanted to get vaccinated immediately, I can avoid that and the virus with very high probability. If needed, I'll take v3 or so of the mRNA vaccine.

I’m not sure which child to respond to, so responding here. I’m pretty well aligned with this and I’m not sure why it’s getting the downvotes. COVID has never been communicated to me as something serious for my age group. Maybe I’m misinformed, but I’ve never feared getting COVID. I was _terrified_ of needing hospital care _during a hockey stick_. COVID was communicated to me as a hospital killer. I was terrified I’d…

Long covid. I'm 28, fit and healthy, and I had covid that wasn't bad enough to require hospital treatment, but left with me with fatigue, shortness of breath and heart arrythmias that are only just improving 12 months later and are still not back to full fitness.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by seaman1921 »

muststopmyths wrote: post #34
causality0 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I had complete loss of smell and taste, which came back about 90% over the next six weeks. It was fine for a month and then it went wonky. Probably 30% of my "scent spectrum" has now been replaced with the same burnt meat smell/taste. Everything from chocolate to feces to hamburgers now has the same core odor. It really, really sucks.

Did getting vaccinated change anything ? I've heard that vaccinations helped people with long COVID. Hope you recover fully. Edit: since someone asked for citations, here is a CNN link https://us.cnn.com/2021/04/03/health/long-haulers-vaccine-we... I follow the "This week in virology" podcast and they have discussed this extensively as well. Dr Daniel Griffin, cited in the CNN article is a weekly contributor on this…

please stop with comments starting with 'i've heard that' - there is enough misinformation already.

Please. add. citations.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by causality0 »

ganzuul wrote: post #29
causality0 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I had complete loss of smell and taste, which came back about 90% over the next six weeks. It was fine for a month and then it went wonky. Probably 30% of my "scent spectrum" has now been replaced with the same burnt meat smell/taste. Everything from chocolate to feces to hamburgers now has the same core odor. It really, really sucks.

How old are you? Were you completely healthy before?

30. Overweight but no actual medical problems. Not prescribed any medications. Not a drug, cigarette, or alcohol user.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by dntrkv »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #52
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #4

I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

As someone not getting the vaccine. I'll explain my reasoning. At this point, the odds of getting COVID are small. And much better treatments are around the corner. Thus a 1% mortality rate for the elderly, with multiple co-morbidities, will be even lower for someone my age should I get it at some point. Vaccines introduce a foreign substance 100% of the time into your body, sometimes have side effects. I won't even…

> Vaccines introduce a foreign substance 100% of the time into your body

So does the virus. And all of our data shows the virus is much, much worse.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by ysavir »

seaman1921 wrote: post #57
muststopmyths wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did getting vaccinated change anything ? I've heard that vaccinations helped people with long COVID. Hope you recover fully. Edit: since someone asked for citations, here is a CNN link https://us.cnn.com/2021/04/03/health/long-haulers-vaccine-we... I follow the "This week in virology" podcast and they have discussed this extensively as well. Dr Daniel Griffin, cited in the CNN article is a weekly contributor on this…

please stop with comments starting with 'i've heard that' - there is enough misinformation already. Please. add. citations.

They're literally asking for someone to weigh in with first-hand experience on something they heard but are not sure about. It's a valid question that I would also like to hear about.

Citations are more relevant for when people are making a claim than for when they are investigating a claim.

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