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Apps supporting account creation must also offer account deletion

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Re: Apps supporting account creation must also offer account deletion

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WalterGR wrote: post #32
cton wrote: post #9

Relevant text under 5.1.1 (v): > (v) Account Sign-In: If your app doesn’t include significant account-based features, let people use it without a login. If your app supports account creation, you must also offer account deletion within the app. Apps may not require users to enter personal information to function, except when directly relevant to the core functionality of the app or required by law. If your core app f…

Can anyone translate that into practical terms? To me that doesn’t match this post’s title, currently “AppStore: Apps supporting account creation must also offer account deletion”. Quote: The app must also include a mechanism to revoke social network credentials and disable data access between the app and social network from within the app. An app may not store credentials or tokens to social networks off of the devi…

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Post by cube2222 »

egocentric wrote: post #25

Now do subscriptions. For all the people who fall prey to misleading tactics and don’t know how to cancel.

I think that's already there. If you subscribe using the app store subscription mechanism you can see a list of subscriptions in your account settings, including unsubscribe buttons.

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

nindalf wrote: post #37
kgraves wrote: post #10

This is great on Apple’s part for enforcing this for every account based app, now if only HN offered account deletion…

Or indeed, deletion of your comments. The way dang explained it to me was that each comment thread is a shared work created by multiple people rather than a collection of individual comments. Since you don’t own your comments, you can’t delete them. He is very accommodating about requests to disavow comments from your account. But I don’t expect people on HN to complain about this. They hold every other website to ab…

> Since you don’t own your comments

where on HN did I waive or assign copyright or ownership to YC?

The FAQ ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html ) says you just need to email them to get stuff deleted:

> we care about protecting individual users and take care of privacy requests every day, so if we can help, please email hn@ycombinator.com

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Post by yoz-y »

WalterGR wrote: post #28
k-mcgrady wrote: post #20

I’ve seen quite a lot of people complaining about this on Twitter. Is there some negative to this I’m not aware of other than companies losing customers? I’ve come across more and more sites in recent years with no account deletion option and it’s hugely frustrating. One I discover it and manage to shut my account down via a support channel they have lost me for good. There is no way I’m ever becoming a customer agai…

I’ve come across more and more sites in recent years with no account deletion option and it’s hugely frustrating. It’s just not something that developers have really had to account for thus far. You ingest data and then it and derived data goes god knows where in your organization. How do you track all of that down? (There’s “should be” and “actually is”. I’m referring to the latter.)

At least in Europe with GDPR they, at least legally, had to account for this.

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Post by cassonmars »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #50
WalterGR wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d never heard of the “Hotel California business model.” Googled it - for others: Hotel California is a song by the band The Eagles, which contains the lyrics: “Relax," said the night man, "We are programmed to receive You can check out any time you like But you can never leave!"

Can someone explain it to me, though? Logically, after you check-out of a hotel you've surrendered your right to abode at that location - after that you're usually limited to common/shared areas like the lobby, bar, restaurant, maybe the pool - but excepting the lobby those places are closed at night - and they'd have security to remove people from the lobby if necessary - so as far as the Eagles' are concerned, what…

The song is a metaphor, though what the metaphor is has been debated — be it drugs or some other form of escapism. In any respect, the “check out” is a play on words of the euphemism for dying — your only way out is death, which is partly what makes the belief so popular that the song is a metaphor for a drug like heroin.

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Post by 9wzYQbTYsAIc »

Tabular-Iceberg wrote: post #33
mosselman wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that iCloud is not an app. The account you are referring to is a phone account, not app account. You are comparing apples to oranges.

Why isn’t it an app? What’s the criteria for something being an app?

Are you being deliberately obtuse or just really not able to understand that Apple provides two things: 1) an operating system with ancillary features and 2) an App Store with applications for sale?

iCloud is not an app that you can download on the App Store. It is an ancillary service for the operating system.

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Post by snowwrestler »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #54
nindalf wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or indeed, deletion of your comments. The way dang explained it to me was that each comment thread is a shared work created by multiple people rather than a collection of individual comments. Since you don’t own your comments, you can’t delete them. He is very accommodating about requests to disavow comments from your account. But I don’t expect people on HN to complain about this. They hold every other website to ab…

> Since you don’t own your comments where on HN did I waive or assign copyright or ownership to YC? The FAQ ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html ) says you just need to email them to get stuff deleted: > we care about protecting individual users and take care of privacy requests every day, so if we can help, please email hn@ycombinator.com

You didn’t waive or assign copyright but you did “grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose in any form, medium or technology now known or later developed.”

So, with a license like that, they can legally choose to keep showing your comment if they want to.

That said, I think dang will help delete things if you email to ask and have a good reason. I’ve done it with a couple of my comments.

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