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Web Applications from the Future: A Database in the Browser
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Re: Web Applications from the Future: A Database in the Browser
#52Having been a dev on EtherPad, Google Wave, Coda, and other real-time collaborative apps with OT, undo, and so on... I think it's correct that, ideally, there would be a framework that handles real-time collaboration, undo/redo, and offline support for you, and then you build your app with these problems already solved. I will probably create such a framework eventually. I don't see it as a database engineering probl…
The common abstraction is a shared log. I'm boiling down my current side project ( http://www.adama-lang.org/ ) into reusable components. I'm also looking at WebAssembly as the way of doing work ( http://www.adama-lang.org/blog/micro-monoliths ) versus generic operations. Something interesting to consider is how important is offline use these days? If we get to an online-99.9% world, then the solution feels ... simpl…
Not long ago for work I was forced to use office365. It has collaborative editing feature that at the surface looks equivalent to Google docs, but in practice it's not: it wasn't reliable, I lost some edits a few times and even when it worked it was slow and sluggish (I knew that because I could see another person's shared screen in zoom), and it actually co-editing a file definitely felt a different experience.
The relevant bit your comment is: while most people indeed testified that the experience was not as good as Google docs, it wasn't that terrible to most of the people.
Turns out that it really depends how well you're connected.
Being connected 99.9% sucks more if that 0.1% is a crappy connection that drops packets occasionally as opposed to just saying "I'm online most of the time, I don't care if I need to edit the doc that rare 0.1% of the time when my connection is broken for good)
Re: Web Applications from the Future: A Database in the Browser
#53Having been a dev on EtherPad, Google Wave, Coda, and other real-time collaborative apps with OT, undo, and so on... I think it's correct that, ideally, there would be a framework that handles real-time collaboration, undo/redo, and offline support for you, and then you build your app with these problems already solved. I will probably create such a framework eventually. I don't see it as a database engineering probl…
You might like what I’m working on. A Node.js backend powered by Y.js.
Send me an email to humans@tiptap.dev if you want to take a peek.
Re: Web Applications from the Future: A Database in the Browser
#54API rate limit exceeded for user ID 984574.
On it! Sorry about that.
[update] should be back
Re: Web Applications from the Future: A Database in the Browser
#55A lot of the principles here echo the same design principles that MeteorJS was built on. Why didn't that work and why now? Is there something about _today_ that makes the web application space different?
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#56Having been a dev on EtherPad, Google Wave, Coda, and other real-time collaborative apps with OT, undo, and so on... I think it's correct that, ideally, there would be a framework that handles real-time collaboration, undo/redo, and offline support for you, and then you build your app with these problems already solved. I will probably create such a framework eventually. I don't see it as a database engineering probl…
You might like what I’m working on. A Node.js backend powered by Y.js. https://www.hocuspocus.dev Send me an email to humans@tiptap.dev if you want to take a peek.
I definitely want to check it out. Also, I love the simplicity of your site. Did you use a template or design it from scratch? I have a project that I need a page for and would want something similar to yours. Happy to pay for the work too.
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#57this site appears to have exceeded its API rate limit. I wonder if that is a problem what will be solved by 'web applications of the future'. but i guess ill never know now
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#58We had Meteor with “mini mongo” and you locally subscribed to streams and it was all a quite bloated PÓS IIRC. At some point someone will make a virtual browser that runs in the browser, or maybe a kubernetes that runs in the browser and the circle of ironic self referencing will be complete. Just replace the browser and use ports 80 and 443 and be done with it, instead of pretending that cpu cycles and RAM are free.…
> a virtual browser that runs in the browser
I think there s an app for that
Re: Web Applications from the Future: A Database in the Browser
#59Having been a dev on EtherPad, Google Wave, Coda, and other real-time collaborative apps with OT, undo, and so on... I think it's correct that, ideally, there would be a framework that handles real-time collaboration, undo/redo, and offline support for you, and then you build your app with these problems already solved. I will probably create such a framework eventually. I don't see it as a database engineering probl…
I have been thinking about these concepts in a person app. The primary point of collaboration in this personal app is the file system in real time. The framework I settled on for this problem is a security model.
In this app there are two types of agents: personal devices and users. Collaboration between devices is unrestricted because they are only physically separated segments of the same single user. Collaboration between users requires a share which is a segment of availability. By default a share is read only. Device identity is not exposed to other users so a separate user will have no idea they are collaborating across different computers if they are owned by the same user.
I have not written undo for the file system yet though. A requested feature is file/directory synchronization and I am considering adding desktop/camera video sharing.
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You might like what I’m working on. A Node.js backend powered by Y.js. https://www.hocuspocus.dev Send me an email to humans@tiptap.dev if you want to take a peek.
I definitely want to check it out. Also, I love the simplicity of your site. Did you use a template or design it from scratch? I have a project that I need a page for and would want something similar to yours. Happy to pay for the work too.
Appears to be compiled using Gridsome, from looking briefly at source (CTRL+U).