Papers please, comrade.
Swiss Covid Certificate – Technical documentation of the swiss Covid certificate
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Re: Swiss Covid Certificate – Technical documentation of the swiss Covid certificate
#52From the G7 agenda reporting: “ Last Friday morning, during an interview on Good Morning America, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said the Biden administration was taking “a very close look” at the possibility of vaccine passports for travel into and out of the United States. However by Friday afternoon the Department of Homeland Security was clarifying Mayorkas’ statement. The DHS says there won’…
> If more states ban covid-passports, I wonder if the EU would rather not have tourists than allow visitations. That's certainly a possibility if safety really is a concern. But I'd wager that the average American anti Covid fanatic (the sort: Masks are fascism! It's like what the nazis did with the jews!) is not really the kind of person travelling the world. I don't think that others, who want to travel the world r…
> That's certainly a possibility if safety really is a concern. But I'd wager that the average American anti Covid fanatic (the sort: Masks are fascism! It's like what the nazis did with the jews!) is not really the kind of person travelling the world.
That is incredibly mean-spirited. And exactly what I have come to expect.
I am fully vaccinated: measles, rubella, all the rest.
I will not get the COVID shot.
I never get the annual flu shot, either. I am skeptical of a highly experimental new treatment for a disease that isn't all that lethal.
My body, my choice. If I die, that's my problem.
You go ahead and get the shot. Your body, your choice. If you "trust the science", it'll give you immunity, and you don't need to worry about me at all.
My attitude is mainstream. You just never listen to it, because you'd probably prefer that CNN or the NYT "interpret" it for you.
Re: Swiss Covid Certificate – Technical documentation of the swiss Covid certificate
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have my Covid shots entered into the WHO yellow vaccination passport and assume that's good enough for the time being until a specific "QR code passport" is released. edited to add: Why should a civilized country just revoke certification once you're fully vaccinated?
Why should a civilized country just revoke certification once you're fully vaccinated? Why would a civilized country just force an airplane down flying over it's territory because of a made-up bomb threat to remove a journalist?
To be fair not everyone would count Belarus among civilised countries.
Re: Swiss Covid Certificate – Technical documentation of the swiss Covid certificate
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have my Covid shots entered into the WHO yellow vaccination passport and assume that's good enough for the time being until a specific "QR code passport" is released. edited to add: Why should a civilized country just revoke certification once you're fully vaccinated?
Why should a civilized country just revoke certification once you're fully vaccinated? Why would a civilized country just force an airplane down flying over it's territory because of a made-up bomb threat to remove a journalist?
I think the keyword is "civilized country".
Re: Swiss Covid Certificate – Technical documentation of the swiss Covid certificate
#55From the G7 agenda reporting: “ Last Friday morning, during an interview on Good Morning America, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said the Biden administration was taking “a very close look” at the possibility of vaccine passports for travel into and out of the United States. However by Friday afternoon the Department of Homeland Security was clarifying Mayorkas’ statement. The DHS says there won’…
> If more states ban covid-passports, I wonder if the EU would rather not have tourists than allow visitations.
I assume people coming from non-vaccine-passport countries will require additional documentation (ie they'll have to prove vaccination, just not in a standardized way)
Re: Swiss Covid Certificate – Technical documentation of the swiss Covid certificate
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
You do have a point there. The EU is pitching COVID certificates as a way to restore travel in the bloc, but I can’t imagine they will be used in places other than airports/bus stations/train stations. The issue is that maintaining roadblocks along Schengen borders has incurred costs that countries don’t like to deal with long-term, and even with the roadblocks there have been a lot of gaps. I spent last summer cycli…
Denmark use a similar app called “Coronapas”. Works similar to the Swiss one, displaying latest test results and vaccine status. It’s currently required to enter any restaurants or public spaces and has been very successful in returning some degree of normality to the country. Singapore are trialing a similar solution where the “Trace Together” app displays my vaccine status, possible exposure as well as test results…
"It’s currently required to enter any restaurants or public spaces and has been very successful in returning some degree of normality to the country.", there seems to be a link between the app and the normality in this statement, but there actually is no link between the two: an app like this may have some impact at some longer term, to lighten another wave, but it doesn't have any effect on the current re-openings.
Re: Swiss Covid Certificate – Technical documentation of the swiss Covid certificate
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have my Covid shots entered into the WHO yellow vaccination passport and assume that's good enough for the time being until a specific "QR code passport" is released. edited to add: Why should a civilized country just revoke certification once you're fully vaccinated?
When the new apps and digital certificates were announced, being able to revoke certification at any time was touted as one of their major advantages over traditional vaccine certificates. This way, if a new variant arises that preexisting vaccines don’t protect against, or if a state wants to enforce annual booster shots, they can just invalidate older certificates by updating the database entry to which the QR code…
At least here around I never read that argument. Given that it's initially valid for only 6 month I don't think that's really an issue.
Re: Swiss Covid Certificate – Technical documentation of the swiss Covid certificate
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have my Covid shots entered into the WHO yellow vaccination passport and assume that's good enough for the time being until a specific "QR code passport" is released. edited to add: Why should a civilized country just revoke certification once you're fully vaccinated?
Why should a civilized country just revoke certification once you're fully vaccinated? Why would a civilized country just force an airplane down flying over it's territory because of a made-up bomb threat to remove a journalist?
Belarus would not generally be considered civilized in the sense you're probably thinking of; it's essentially a rogue state.
Re: Swiss Covid Certificate – Technical documentation of the swiss Covid certificate
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If more states ban covid-passports, I wonder if the EU would rather not have tourists than allow visitations. That's certainly a possibility if safety really is a concern. But I'd wager that the average American anti Covid fanatic (the sort: Masks are fascism! It's like what the nazis did with the jews!) is not really the kind of person travelling the world. I don't think that others, who want to travel the world r…
> That's certainly a possibility if safety really is a concern. But I'd wager that the average American anti Covid fanatic (the sort: Masks are fascism! It's like what the nazis did with the jews!) is not really the kind of person travelling the world. That is incredibly mean-spirited. And exactly what I have come to expect. I am fully vaccinated: measles, rubella, all the rest. I will not get the COVID shot. I never…
"If I die, that's my problem." — if it were that easy, I'd be fully on board with you. I am not a fan of being told what I should be doing. In a society (like they say, no man is an island), however, it's not always that clear cut. Once you're infected, the disease does not only affect you and your body. You pass it on to others, you may have an unexpected reaction (which can now be said with quite some certainty, is at the very last the same or worse than whatever the vaccine would do to you) and that reaction means you may use up unexpected resources provided by society. If you live on a farm out in the desert all by yourself, don't need a doctor or hospital, and end up dying or being fine without other people affected, then sure, you do you. That I fully support.
Seeing you post here in HackerNews, I'd guess you'd actually enjoy reading up (and are qualified to understand) on mRNA technology, including the Pfizer "disassembly" for it on GitHub.
In terms of your attitude being mainstream, that'll depend on how many people end up getting the vaccine. That sort of thing tends to change quickly (in both ways).
Re: Swiss Covid Certificate – Technical documentation of the swiss Covid certificate
#60Seems complex for something that probably never going to see any real use.
> something that probably never going to see any real use
Loads of venues and events in New York are requiring an Excelsior pass. Some will allow persons with out-of-state IDs in with paperwork inspection, but that’s a slower line.