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Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by ska »

jayd16 wrote: post #49
ska wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you miss the significant numbers part? Apples watch is a mainstream consumer electronics hit. The closest other thing close to comparable I can think of is the fitbits - at least their simple ones. Nobody in AR (or face wearables) is playing in that space at all. I think "decade lead" is unsupportable. But the article is right that all of their competitors or potential competitors are well behind in some combinat…

More numbers in a completely different tech stack is meaningless. How does a watch give you any learnings on an AR headset?

I'm not sure what argument you are trying to make. That in some putative future where AR headsets become a meaningful product category for wearable Apple might not be in a strong position?

True but not really germane.

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by nielsbot »

unparagoned wrote: post #50
least wrote: post #17

I'm pretty skeptical that Apple has a decade-long lead on any of the other big players in the market. Any innovations that one company can make can be more quickly adopted than new innovations occur and there's nothing as far as software goes that Apple is uniquely positioned to create. The other factors mentioned such as silicon tech being years ahead of the competition is one that is hardly a factor for the smart w…

I've got a Samsung watch and the the heart rate monitor has serious reliability issues. Apples is not only suppose the be better but you got blood pressure and o2 monitoring. I'm definitely going to switch over in the future

No blood pressure

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by t-writescode »

TENACIOUSANT wrote: post #33
intellix wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feel like I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum. I hate wearing it and don't like wearing anything any kind of jewellery either. Only really wearing it for sleep tracking and I don't even do anything with the data. I don't really use it for time and I honestly can't think of any reason to use it for anything. The health stuff doesn't tell me anything is wrong with me and the notifications drive me insane vibrating…

Agreed on the haptics, a literal nightmare device with them enabled. But without I find it keeps me less tethered to the phone, and able to check on calls and messages during a conversation without breaking the flow

Turn off all the notifications. It’s way, way better without them.

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

unparagoned wrote: post #50
least wrote: post #17

I'm pretty skeptical that Apple has a decade-long lead on any of the other big players in the market. Any innovations that one company can make can be more quickly adopted than new innovations occur and there's nothing as far as software goes that Apple is uniquely positioned to create. The other factors mentioned such as silicon tech being years ahead of the competition is one that is hardly a factor for the smart w…

I've got a Samsung watch and the the heart rate monitor has serious reliability issues. Apples is not only suppose the be better but you got blood pressure and o2 monitoring. I'm definitely going to switch over in the future

I have been using the samsung line of watches since before apple watch was ever a thing, despite some heart rate variance the leadership in payments samsung commanded was and still is unparalleled.

people with apple pay carry a backup card, a samsung watch allows paying with magstripe emulation in case of legacy terminals. pre 2020 pandemic this was indespensible and there are still often inoperable nfc terminals and MST is a great backup.

I hate the elitism around the apple watch and its minor changes to standard health tracking wearable tech that has had normal LTE and other full phone functions from the get go... not to mention the ridiculous requirment that an iPad isnt enough to set up a watch, you need to buy into their phones.

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by thekyle »

emsy wrote: post #14
lettergram wrote: post #4

Pebble IMO was and still is the best wearable watch. I don’t think anything worked better largely due to the long battery life and generally the e-ink design. Had they added different wrist bands with smart tech in it, it would have gone even further. I don’t really think apple has a decade lead, what they do have is minimal innovation they’re competing with. AND more importantly, a brand and ecosystem. That being sa…

I had several pebbles (2 b/w and the colored one) and now have an apple watch. You don’t know what you’re talking about, the tech in the apple watch is years ahead. There’s much to criticize about the apple watch but it does the important things just so much better than the competition. I also never understood the focus on battery life. I put my watch on the charger whenever I go to sleep. If I forget it either still…

> I put my watch on the charger whenever I go to sleep.

One of the things that always confused me about the Apple Watch (and other smartwatches) is that they market them as sleep tracking devices, but if you do use it for that purpose then I'm not sure when you're supposed to charge it. I guess you could charge it during a morning (or evening) shower but is ~30 minutes a day of charging enough?

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by voisin »

nielsbot wrote: post #52
unparagoned wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a Samsung watch and the the heart rate monitor has serious reliability issues. Apples is not only suppose the be better but you got blood pressure and o2 monitoring. I'm definitely going to switch over in the future

No blood pressure

Rumoured in next one based on some acquisitions they did pre-pandemic.

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by jiggawatts »

unparagoned wrote: post #50
least wrote: post #17

I'm pretty skeptical that Apple has a decade-long lead on any of the other big players in the market. Any innovations that one company can make can be more quickly adopted than new innovations occur and there's nothing as far as software goes that Apple is uniquely positioned to create. The other factors mentioned such as silicon tech being years ahead of the competition is one that is hardly a factor for the smart w…

I've got a Samsung watch and the the heart rate monitor has serious reliability issues. Apples is not only suppose the be better but you got blood pressure and o2 monitoring. I'm definitely going to switch over in the future

Most of the Apple Watch health features are blocked in Australia because they were literally too lazy to submit the paperwork to the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA)!

All a competitor has to do is submit their paperwork and they won't get any competition from Apple. Easy!

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by nostromo »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #3

I didn't think I would like the Apple Watch as much as I do. I swear, add a camera, and I'll leave my phone at home. I know, it's not a mobile browser, not really much as a mobile messaging device — but that's fine. One one hand, I'm not your stereotypical phone user that is always engrossed in the black mirror but furthermore, the Apple Watch means I am even less inclined.

I liked my Apple Watch for a while. Then… I forgot to wear it sometimes. Then everyday.

I’d love to buy one again if it could hold a charge for several days. But the value proposition isn’t high enough for the pain of daily charging.

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by chrisseaton »

jiggawatts wrote: post #58
unparagoned wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a Samsung watch and the the heart rate monitor has serious reliability issues. Apples is not only suppose the be better but you got blood pressure and o2 monitoring. I'm definitely going to switch over in the future

Most of the Apple Watch health features are blocked in Australia because they were literally too lazy to submit the paperwork to the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA)! All a competitor has to do is submit their paperwork and they won't get any competition from Apple. Easy!

Who's the mug in this situation? Apple, or the Australian people?
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