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Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

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Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

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I’m personally sceptical of putting too much faith in this, we’ve already seen a number of variants. Over my lifetime? Who knows what mutations we’ll see.

The common consensus among scientists now is that the vaccine works against most if not all variants as well.

The vaccine, yes. But I'm not sure there's such consensus around homegrown antibodies.

Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

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I am being shunned by my family because of my lack of interest in the vaccine. I've had COVID and recovered. I also don't get a flu shot each year. I really like not putting things into my body, especially when year after year I may or may not "catch" these things but if I do, I always recover. I act responsibly and do not go out when I am sick. However, none of these facts or articles such as this will ever effectiv…

But you _did_ catch covid so being careful isn't always enough. I don't think it's emotional or unreasonable for your family to require the vaccine before you visit.

Also, I'm not suggesting that you will "kill everyone" by not getting the vaccine, but it really isn't just about you and that you personally will probably recover.

Do you think it's a reasonable thing for most people to take your stance and not get vaccinated? We are at the tail end of this thing _because_ we have a vaccination available.

Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

#53
post #44

I am being shunned by my family because of my lack of interest in the vaccine. I've had COVID and recovered. I also don't get a flu shot each year. I really like not putting things into my body, especially when year after year I may or may not "catch" these things but if I do, I always recover. I act responsibly and do not go out when I am sick. However, none of these facts or articles such as this will ever effectiv…

Who said after recovery you need vaccine? Probably you just need to share official documentation from your government and official health body with your family. Afaik, recovered and vaccinated are treated the same currently.

I asked about this. The response I got was that many people who got COVID had a mild case where the immune system did not kick in very strongly. That these are more likely to get a 2nd infection. The vaccine for them will give them coverage from a second infection.

They want everyone to get the vaccine so that people aren't missed who had a mild case.

Right or wrong, this is the reasoning being shared where I live.

Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

#54

I am being shunned by my family because of my lack of interest in the vaccine. I've had COVID and recovered. I also don't get a flu shot each year. I really like not putting things into my body, especially when year after year I may or may not "catch" these things but if I do, I always recover. I act responsibly and do not go out when I am sick. However, none of these facts or articles such as this will ever effectiv…

For hard-core irrefutable evidence, get your IgG antibodies assay test done. Problem solved, you're a model citizen now.

Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

#55

I am being shunned by my family because of my lack of interest in the vaccine. I've had COVID and recovered. I also don't get a flu shot each year. I really like not putting things into my body, especially when year after year I may or may not "catch" these things but if I do, I always recover. I act responsibly and do not go out when I am sick. However, none of these facts or articles such as this will ever effectiv…

> I act responsibly and do not go out when I am sick.

How many days before you are noticeably sick can you spread the flu or COVID?

Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

#56

I know two people who had covid and who right now have a second covid infection by the british mutation. One of them also had their first vaccination.

It may happen, also it is worth to notice that the immunity should form after the second vaccine

Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

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post #9

I’m personally sceptical of putting too much faith in this, we’ve already seen a number of variants. Over my lifetime? Who knows what mutations we’ll see.

Scientists have found that people who had SARS are immune to COVID. Their T cells fight it off. There was another variant of a coronavirus that went around and people who got that seem to be immune to. Some scientists testing on older blood samples found this. The older coronavirus didn't cause major issues in society and went unnoticed.

I share this to say that there is reason to believe that we will be able to fight this off, even with mutations. It's not baseless hope.

Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

#58
post #44

I am being shunned by my family because of my lack of interest in the vaccine. I've had COVID and recovered. I also don't get a flu shot each year. I really like not putting things into my body, especially when year after year I may or may not "catch" these things but if I do, I always recover. I act responsibly and do not go out when I am sick. However, none of these facts or articles such as this will ever effectiv…

Who said after recovery you need vaccine? Probably you just need to share official documentation from your government and official health body with your family. Afaik, recovered and vaccinated are treated the same currently.

>"But the persistence of antibody production, whether elicited by vaccination or infection, does not ensure long-lasting immunity to COVID-19. The ability of some emerging SARS-CoV-2 variants to blunt the protective effects of antibodies means that additional immunizations may be needed to restore levels, says Ellebedy. “My presumption is we will need a booster.”

The article talks about how the experts on this field "presume" we'll need boosters to get antibody levels high enough to combat the worse mutated variants, and of course, it could be a bit of an arms race between it mutating variants that are better against our antibodies, and us boosting our antibodies with vaccines to trigger responses and keep blood levels high.

Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

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post #52

I am being shunned by my family because of my lack of interest in the vaccine. I've had COVID and recovered. I also don't get a flu shot each year. I really like not putting things into my body, especially when year after year I may or may not "catch" these things but if I do, I always recover. I act responsibly and do not go out when I am sick. However, none of these facts or articles such as this will ever effectiv…

But you _did_ catch covid so being careful isn't always enough. I don't think it's emotional or unreasonable for your family to require the vaccine before you visit. Also, I'm not suggesting that you will "kill everyone" by not getting the vaccine, but it really isn't just about you and that you personally will probably recover. Do you think it's a reasonable thing for most people to take your stance and not get vacc…

The thing that I find so wrong about this type of argument is that the vaccine is not proven to prevent spreading the virus. It is only proven to stop the onset of COVID-19 after one contracts the virus.

So the line of reasoning that argues one should get vaccinated to stop the spread of SARS-CoV-2 is not valid.

Edit: Wow - the downvotes... There is some evidence that transmission is reduced, but it is not proven:

"the risk for SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated"

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br...

Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

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post #52

I am being shunned by my family because of my lack of interest in the vaccine. I've had COVID and recovered. I also don't get a flu shot each year. I really like not putting things into my body, especially when year after year I may or may not "catch" these things but if I do, I always recover. I act responsibly and do not go out when I am sick. However, none of these facts or articles such as this will ever effectiv…

But you _did_ catch covid so being careful isn't always enough. I don't think it's emotional or unreasonable for your family to require the vaccine before you visit. Also, I'm not suggesting that you will "kill everyone" by not getting the vaccine, but it really isn't just about you and that you personally will probably recover. Do you think it's a reasonable thing for most people to take your stance and not get vacc…

Vaccinate the high risk people then.
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