I don't understand why people are so eager to slather chemicals on their skin, when we evolved with the sun and it's not hard for most people to avoid sun burn. You just have get sun exposure on a somewhat regular basis (healthy to do anyway) and acclimate between seasons (ie, don't go abruptly from no sun to all the sun).
Benzene detected in many sunscreen products
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#52So this is bad, obviously, but I want to plug Valisure and consumerlab both. For whatever reason there’s so little testing out there for both generic drugs and vitamins and supplements, and both of these guys really do have our backs. I’m very happy to support both to be doing what I feel like the FDA with more funding should be doing themselves.
There's a good book called bottle of lies that talks about how overwhelmed the FDA is and how often many products slip through the cracks, including generic medicines.
Intentionally overwhelmed. Lawmakers and the revolving door heads don't actually want regulation to work.
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#53Neutrogena is owned by Johnson and Johnson - which just payed out on a case relating to cancer from baby-powders [1]. Combined with Neutrogena being more or less _very high_ in benezine content and J&J having a very deep suite of cancer treatment drugs [2]... This seems like a horrific story of a self-fulfilling product pipeline. I know they're a giant organization and suggesting conspiracy is a bit insane but I can'…
All around classy company: https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/miracleindustry/americas... Quote from the article: “Oh, they’ve already reserved for that stuff,” one of them told me during a coffee break. He meant that in Johnson & Johnson’s financials, there had been money taken from earnings and put into a column vaguely called “accrued liabilities,” in order to account for the expected billions that might still ha…
They will settle for 50 million. And sure, that's a lot of money, but not to them, not really. We started a rainy-day fund just for this occasion. The fund itself has already made five times that amount.
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#54Neutrogena is owned by Johnson and Johnson - which just payed out on a case relating to cancer from baby-powders [1]. Combined with Neutrogena being more or less _very high_ in benezine content and J&J having a very deep suite of cancer treatment drugs [2]... This seems like a horrific story of a self-fulfilling product pipeline. I know they're a giant organization and suggesting conspiracy is a bit insane but I can'…
All around classy company: https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/miracleindustry/americas... Quote from the article: “Oh, they’ve already reserved for that stuff,” one of them told me during a coffee break. He meant that in Johnson & Johnson’s financials, there had been money taken from earnings and put into a column vaguely called “accrued liabilities,” in order to account for the expected billions that might still ha…
If anybody ever wondered, this is a concrete example of what it looks like when a company treats its negative externalities as a "cost of doing business".
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#55I don't understand why people are so eager to slather chemicals on their skin, when we evolved with the sun and it's not hard for most people to avoid sun burn. You just have get sun exposure on a somewhat regular basis (healthy to do anyway) and acclimate between seasons (ie, don't go abruptly from no sun to all the sun).
I live at altitude (~8000 ft) and have very fair skin. I burn within 20 minutes of being in direct sunlight. So, I’m not sure what it is I’m supposed to do.
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#56So going through the list i see Neutrogena a lot. Neutrogena is owned by Johnson and Johnson. Sun Pharmaceuticals owns Banana Boat, Coppertone is owned by a German company called Beiersdorf, CVS Health is the next largest brand to show up and it owns these subsidiaries: CVS Pharmacy, MinuteClinic, CVS Caremark, CVS Specialty, Drogaria Onofre, Longs Drugs, Navarro Discount Pharmacies, Accordant, Coram, Omnicare, Wellp…
I bet if you wait a month, you would get different results. These brands are just brands, they buy product in bulk from manufacturers you've never heard of and stick it in a bottle with a lot of words on it to try to pretend like their product is differentiated.
This might be true at the very low end of the market, but most sunscreen brands that people care about enough to have loyalty are uniquely sourced products.
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#57I don't understand why people are so eager to slather chemicals on their skin, when we evolved with the sun and it's not hard for most people to avoid sun burn. You just have get sun exposure on a somewhat regular basis (healthy to do anyway) and acclimate between seasons (ie, don't go abruptly from no sun to all the sun).
I encourage you to learn about rates of skin cancer in Australia. Most people get it. People of european genetics didnt evolve to live there
In other countries you may have a point, I am not sure
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#58Neutrogena is owned by Johnson and Johnson - which just payed out on a case relating to cancer from baby-powders [1]. Combined with Neutrogena being more or less _very high_ in benezine content and J&J having a very deep suite of cancer treatment drugs [2]... This seems like a horrific story of a self-fulfilling product pipeline. I know they're a giant organization and suggesting conspiracy is a bit insane but I can'…
> Johnson and Johnson - which just payed out on a case relating to cancer from baby-powders
I asked this question in another post and did not get a reply.
The US links sited state no evidence for talc causing cancer. A search of the NHS website also suggests no clear evidence [1]. Cancer Research (a respected UK charity) give a layman's summary (albeit focusing on ovarian cancer), stating no clear evidence and pointing out that there are far more serious risks to worry about [2].
Given the above, what is the hype about? Is this because the US is so insanely litigious?
[1] https://www.evidence.nhs.uk/search?om=[{%22ety%22:[%22Inform...
[2] https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-canc...
EDIT: Down votes for asking a genuine question? Shame on you.
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#59Should I conclude anything from the fact that almost all of the products with high benzene contents are sprays instead of lotions?
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#60What if skin cancer was actually caused by sun screen? Wouldn't that be ironic, don't ya think?
As ironic as obesity being caused by low-fat, high-carb diet recommendations?