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Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by akerl_ »

GiorgioG wrote: post #23
jedberg wrote: post #8

If he wanted to, he could probably sue Tesla for tortious interference of his previous job, since he gave notice at the previous job because of them. Also, it really sucks that Tesla didn't offer him severance given that he was effectively laid off. Hopefully he can at least get unemployment.

He would lose 99.999% of the time thanks to `at will` employment.

At-will employment doesn’t really factor in here.

The central issue is that Tesla gave him a job offer and based on that offer he resigned from his prior job. Tesla then reneged on their offer weeks later. The damages are the lost wages due to them not following through with the job offer after they caused him to resign.

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by jopsen »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #14
throwaway158497 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, emoployees can leave company any time. And they leave companies on short notices! Cuts both ways!

Are there actually countries where employees can't quit if they want to?

Yes, I think I have a months notice... By law.

I'm not sure what the consequences would be if I didn't show up though... maybe my employer could sue me to get back the salary they had to pay me, while I didn't work as the contact stated I would.

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by k1t »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #14
throwaway158497 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, emoployees can leave company any time. And they leave companies on short notices! Cuts both ways!

Are there actually countries where employees can't quit if they want to?

In the UK you must give 1 week's notice, but it is common for employment contracts to extend this to 1-3 months.

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by deadmutex »

PeterBannon wrote: post #26

The same thing happened to me in late 2018. I was hired to write a compiler for deep learning (training) on Tesla's in-house hardware, under Peter Bannon. I resigned from the job I had at the time, and Tesla backed out of the contract shortly before my start date. Tesla is ruthless.

> I was hired to write a compiler for deep learning (training) on Tesla's in-house hardware, under Pete Bannon.

You were hired to report to Pete Bannon? So, that is some other person? And your (user+)name is also Peter Bannon?

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by judge2020 »

Judgmentality wrote: post #34
cercatrova wrote: post #21

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Yes? Isn't the common advice that you should have multiple offers in hand before giving notice? Or do you give notice without an offer?

You want to have multiple offers because it helps you leverage yourself to higher pay during negotiations, and it also gives you more choices to decide where to go next. You want to have a offer before giving notice just so you know what's next, and obviously you shouldn't do this if you don't intend on accepting the only offer you have. If you have no offers you can quit, but you have no guarantee of finding a job i…

This kinda goes against what OP is against though, no? If you have multiple offer letters, chances are multiple other companies have stopped their job search (especially if they don't want to lead on other candidates).

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by selimthegrim »

throwaway158497 wrote: post #32
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #14

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Are there actually countries where employees can't quit if they want to?

Govt employees in India can't really quit at will. You need something called no objection certificate. For some reason that I don't understand, even software engineers give 1-2 months notice.

There is some letter SWEs need from their manager there - I can’t remember what they call it

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by infamouscow »

threatofrain wrote: post #22
jedberg wrote: post #8

If he wanted to, he could probably sue Tesla for tortious interference of his previous job, since he gave notice at the previous job because of them. Also, it really sucks that Tesla didn't offer him severance given that he was effectively laid off. Hopefully he can at least get unemployment.

It's sad that to address his issue he probably has to burn down any and all opportunity with Tesla.

It's sad, but I think the bridge was burned when Tesla rescinded the offer. Tesla could have just as well had Charlie start on a different team, but that's not what happened.

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by pkaye »

tylerwhipple wrote: post #43
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there actually countries where employees can't quit if they want to?

When I was working in France you legally had to give 3 months notice to quit. I think there are ways around this notice period in certain situations.

What happens if you just walk out? Any kind of penalty?

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by Fezzik »

Judgmentality wrote: post #38
jacob2484 wrote: post #24

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Anything to back up your statement? I know a few folks who love working there.

I know lots of folks who hate(d) working there. Just adding my anecdata to yours.

Most people I know hate working anywhere, so that always seems like a bad metric to me on whether an employer is “good”…

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by dokem »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #14
throwaway158497 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, emoployees can leave company any time. And they leave companies on short notices! Cuts both ways!

Are there actually countries where employees can't quit if they want to?

I'm assuming working for the military can count. Either enlisted, or under contract after they paid for school. In the latter you can leave but you owe them money.
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