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Re: Amazon Nears Deal to Buy Hollywood Studio MGM

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Amazon tends to beat the creative parts out of the companies they buy. I bet it's related to the financial efficiencies they apply to them. Creativity is expensive without any guaranteed return. Most of the new prime video content, that I've seen, seems to have a very safe tone to it. Yes, it's new but it's safe. No one will be surprised or insulted by it. It starts to get boring very quickly. As new owners, I hope t…

Fleabag and Marvelous Mrs Maisel didn't seem very safe to me at all

Amazon didn't produce Fleabag, they just have international rights.

Re: Amazon Nears Deal to Buy Hollywood Studio MGM

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Amazon tends to beat the creative parts out of the companies they buy. I bet it's related to the financial efficiencies they apply to them. Creativity is expensive without any guaranteed return. Most of the new prime video content, that I've seen, seems to have a very safe tone to it. Yes, it's new but it's safe. No one will be surprised or insulted by it. It starts to get boring very quickly. As new owners, I hope t…

The Boys? Invincible? Fleabag? Transparent? Marvelous Mrs. Maisel? The Expanse?

I disagree with your premise entirely. I see them trying to unseat HBO as the resource for all the pop culture shows you remember twenty years from now.

I definitely believe them to be bolder than Netflix for their breadth of original libraries.

That might be a little bold, but that’s what I see them trying to do.

Re: Amazon Nears Deal to Buy Hollywood Studio MGM

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What I don't understand is why Netflix hasn't been doing this already – use their vast wealth to buy some legacy entertainment companies. Gives you both the opportunity to get their legacy content library into your streaming service, and also existing stories to use as a basis for new content (Disney seems to be pretty good at doing the later recently)

Re: Amazon Nears Deal to Buy Hollywood Studio MGM

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Amazon tends to beat the creative parts out of the companies they buy. I bet it's related to the financial efficiencies they apply to them. Creativity is expensive without any guaranteed return. Most of the new prime video content, that I've seen, seems to have a very safe tone to it. Yes, it's new but it's safe. No one will be surprised or insulted by it. It starts to get boring very quickly. As new owners, I hope t…

When was the last time MGM did something truly creative? They pretty much just churn out the same formulaic franchise films every 2-3 years (James Bond, Rocky/Creed) or do pointless reboots (Robocop, Legally Blonde, Pink Panther). The studio has already gone through bankruptcy and layoffs and is on its last legs. There isn't too much left for Amazon to ruin.

Re: Amazon Nears Deal to Buy Hollywood Studio MGM

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What I don't understand is why Netflix hasn't been doing this already – use their vast wealth to buy some legacy entertainment companies. Gives you both the opportunity to get their legacy content library into your streaming service, and also existing stories to use as a basis for new content (Disney seems to be pretty good at doing the later recently)

They're betting on filling 5000 niches hunting for the next Stranger Things-level breakout hit.

Re: Amazon Nears Deal to Buy Hollywood Studio MGM

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post #37

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Fleabag and Marvelous Mrs Maisel didn't seem very safe to me at all

I really liked Fleabag. Maisel seemed too pretentious, watched only 2 or 3 episodes. Maybe should try again.

> Maisel seemed too pretentious

Opinion that you didn't ask for: I felt that it was both a good show and a terrible one at the same time and decided to stop watching it. It felt like it was 40% "haha these mega-rich Jews are mega-rich, Jews, and also out of touch", 40% "Gilmore Girls in New York", 19% "romantic nostalgia for Lenny Bruce and a young Joan Rivers", and 1%...I don't know...maybe "they showed boobs on screen that one time".

Re: Amazon Nears Deal to Buy Hollywood Studio MGM

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Amazon tends to beat the creative parts out of the companies they buy. I bet it's related to the financial efficiencies they apply to them. Creativity is expensive without any guaranteed return. Most of the new prime video content, that I've seen, seems to have a very safe tone to it. Yes, it's new but it's safe. No one will be surprised or insulted by it. It starts to get boring very quickly. As new owners, I hope t…

The Boys? Invincible? Fleabag? Transparent? Marvelous Mrs. Maisel? The Expanse? I disagree with your premise entirely. I see them trying to unseat HBO as the resource for all the pop culture shows you remember twenty years from now. I definitely believe them to be bolder than Netflix for their breadth of original libraries. That might be a little bold, but that’s what I see them trying to do.

I enjoyed the series about the Romanovs

Re: Amazon Nears Deal to Buy Hollywood Studio MGM

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post #30

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They can enter new industries well below market cost and destroy all of the existing businesses. They then soak up everything. In the end, everything becomes Amazon. They did it to open source, bookstores, retail. Maybe you don't see the end goal, where every restaurant is Amazon and you rent your home from Jeff Bezos? Maybe you're not worried and you trust these people? Maybe you don't want to compete and you just w…

Why the downvotes. A mobile operator named Jio did this in India.

Amazon employees and shareholders.

Re: Amazon Nears Deal to Buy Hollywood Studio MGM

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post #54

Amazon tends to beat the creative parts out of the companies they buy. I bet it's related to the financial efficiencies they apply to them. Creativity is expensive without any guaranteed return. Most of the new prime video content, that I've seen, seems to have a very safe tone to it. Yes, it's new but it's safe. No one will be surprised or insulted by it. It starts to get boring very quickly. As new owners, I hope t…

When was the last time MGM did something truly creative? They pretty much just churn out the same formulaic franchise films every 2-3 years (James Bond, Rocky/Creed) or do pointless reboots (Robocop, Legally Blonde, Pink Panther). The studio has already gone through bankruptcy and layoffs and is on its last legs. There isn't too much left for Amazon to ruin.

This is exactly it. The goal of the sale is to own the rights to semi-famous original content and an interesting back catalog on the cheap. Amazon just sees the sale as better then bidding against Netflix for the same content.

Re: Amazon Nears Deal to Buy Hollywood Studio MGM

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post #36

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This purchase should be illegal yesterday

Yes. The classroom example of a vertically integrated monopoly has always been the big movie studio systems in the 40s. They not only made the movies but also distributed them and then owned the theaters they were shown in. This monopoly was broken up in 1948. It resulted in better films and paved the way for television. Amazon will make the movies, host them on AWS, stream them to their Firesticks, shows them throug…

> How is that not a vertical monopoly?

Because vertical integration is neither a necessary or sufficient condition for a monopoly.

It’s a non sequitur.

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